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 Friday, September 04, 2009
Ridiculous Statistic: Poetry Rejections
Posted by Robert
Earlier this week, I was asked a pretty ridiculous question: How many poetry submissions (or poems) get rejected by American poetry journals (per year)?
It's not so ridiculous, I suppose, if you're just guesstimating an approximation. But then, the person (I'll let him remain anonymous) went on to ask if I can forward him to a resource that knows the answer if I do not. (And, by the way, he's already consulted poets.org, pw.org, The NY Public Library, and the Library of Congress.)
I'm not surprised he wasn't able to find an answer, because any answer he could have received would've been completely and utterly bogus.
To determine a specific number would require:
- Knowing every journal (big and small press) that receives poetry submissions each year.
- Knowing how many submissions (or poems) are rejected by each journal.
The first part is a lot more difficult than it seems. Even the best directories, do not list every small press journal on the market. Are there 500 literary journals accepting poetry submissions? Are there 5,000? Do high school and college publications count? Where is the line drawn exactly if you want an exact number?
The second part is even harder to figure out. Most editors don't even know how many submissions (or poems) they reject a year. They give approximations like, "We only accept less than 1% of what's submitted," or, "We reject 500 poems every poem we publish." If a journal can't even give you a specific number, how can you give an accurate (or near accurate) answer?
Bottom line: You can't.
More than a million poems are likely rejected each year by American poetry journals. I'm not sure what the point of getting any more specific would accomplish. In fact, I'm not sure why a general knowledge even matters. At the end of the day, it's just another silly, ridiculous statistic.
Poets will continue to write and submit their poetry despite the odds. And I think that's exactly how it should be.
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Friday, September 04, 2009 7:10:10 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Monday, October 06, 2008
ForGodot.com ruffles poetic feathers
Posted by Robert
Wow! This is a busy day for the blog. How many posts am I going to make today anyway?
This post was inspired by a developing story brought to me by my wife Tammy. First, she found this post on Atlanta poet Collin Kelley's Modern Confessional blog: http://collinkelley.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-poem-at-forgodotcom.html.
It talks about an online "anthology" that is "publishing" poems by poets who are online from Jorie Graham to, well, Collin Kelley. Even some of my friends, such as Luc Simonic and Pris Campbell, are in this mega-nthology. There's only one catch: None of the poems were actually written by the poets.
Anyway, Tammy also found some other blogs discussing this odd anthology:
From Amy King's Alias blog: http://amyking.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/the-author-resurrected/
From Reb Livingston's Home-Schooled By a Cackling Jackal blog: http://cacklingjackal.blogspot.com/ (check out the October 5 post)
Also, to check out the source, go to: http://forgodot.com/.
(Really, you should check out the list of poets for the first issue. After a while, your eyes will start to cross--poetically, of course.)
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So, this is probably some kind of joke on poets and the universe, but does it make it right? I don't consider myself an elitist or a prude or anything like that, but poets who are in the anthology AND upset do have a legitimate gripe. For one, the poems aren't funny (if that was even the intent). And second, people who may be searching out a poet's work and find these horrible poems online may write off that particular poet as someone the potential reader no longer wants to read.
This site is NOT an obvious satire, and so poets could very easily be victimized by the misrepresentation of their work. This is especially damaging to lesser known poets--and, yes, there are a lot of them in the first issue. Commentary | Personal Updates | Poetry News | Poetry Publishing | Poets
Monday, October 06, 2008 9:03:29 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Thursday, September 25, 2008
Poetry FAQs: When is something considered published?
Posted by Robert
Okay, this question has been coming up a lot recently in the comments section of this blog: What counts as previously published? And, in relation to this blog, does posting a poem in the comments of this blog mean it's "published"?
Before I begin, I think it would be beneficial for you to read this post from former co-blogger and Poet's Market editor Nancy Breen about the whole publishing question in "Published is Published!"
For Individual Poems
Many editors consider anything published anywhere at any time under any circumstances as published. This can even include public readings. And if a publication specifies what they consider published in their guidelines, it would behoove a poet (or any writer really) to respect the editor's considerations.
With such editors, a poem posted anywhere counts as publication, whether it's posted in a public forum or blog, or even a private, password-protected location online. In such cases, poems posted on this blog would be considered "previously published." However, there are editors who take a slightly different view.
Some editors consider a poem unpublished if it only displays on a personal blog and/or is in a "draft" form in a forum or blog. That is, if your poem on Poetic Asides is only a rough draft and not the final version, it would not be considered "previously published." If editors do not specify what they consider previously published, there's a good chance they fall into this camp.
For Poetry Collections
Except for rare cases, most editors/publishers of poetry collections accept previously published poems as long as the collection itself has not been previously published. Actually, the fact that poems are previously published usually helps in getting the collection published. That said, do NOT try to use poems posted on a personal blog or public forum as a publishing credit. Such credits hold little weight, since there is usually no screening process, because eveyone can get published.
My main point here is that individual poems that are considered published by journals can still be considered unpublished as components of a poetry collection. And that even individual poems that are considered published are welcome in "original" collections of poems.
In fact, "new collections" can be made from selecting poems from previous full-length collections and chapbooks.
So, How Should Poets Proceed?
Armed with your knowledge of what is and is not considered published, you've just got to pick your battles and act accordingly. For instance, most of my poems are not published on my blog, because I want to have as many publishing options available to me as possible. I share drafts of these "unpublished" poems with close poet friends to solicit feedback for revisions.
The poems I post as parts of prompts, I consider "published," though I would not use it as a publishing credit if I tried including any of them in a collection, because I also consider my poems on this blog to be "vanity publication credits." I make an informed decision to write a poem a week just for the act of creation.
Considering how much money most published poets make anyway, I don't view this as such a bad decision. But every poet has to make this decision on their own.
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Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:59:42 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Monday, August 25, 2008
Fake Bio Note Contest!
Posted by Robert
Recently, I was reading about how the Wine Spectator magazine was duped by a fake restaurant in its restaurant awards. This got me thinking how fun it might be to have a "fake bio note" contest. And since we just recently released the 2009 Poet's Market, I can offer that up as a prize to whoever writes the best fake bio.
You can make your bio funny, outrageous, horrible, seriously intense, etc. Just keep it under 100 words (hey, most publications cap it off at 50 words). Enter as many times as you want to this free contest by pasting your fake bio into the comments section below. With so many great writers reading this blog, I know the competition will be fierce. But only one can win and be known as the Poetic Asides FAKE BIO CHAMPION OF THE UNIVERSE.
Let's give this competition a deadline of September 1, 2008, midnight (EST).
For people who need an example, here's my fake bio note (written on the spot--see how easy it is?):
Robert Lee Brewer has twice been nominated the best writer on Jupiter and hopes to turn his love of writing poetry into a Day-Time Emmy award. When he's not negotiating lower prices on gasoline, Brewer bench presses and curls copies of Writer's Market. You can read about it in his forthcoming book titled Breaking a Sweat With the Market Books: 50 Exercises From Weight Resistance to Step Aerobics. Commentary | General | Personal Updates | Poetry News | Poetry Publishing
Monday, August 25, 2008 3:36:17 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Friday, June 27, 2008
Poetry FAQs: Editing Your Poetry
Posted by Robert
TanyaB--one of my friends on Facebook--recently sent me some poetry-related Q's she'd like addressed on the blog. One series (of three) had to do with editing. So, I'm going to list the questions below and try to answer them the best I can. Any blog readers who have a different take are more than welcome to contribute their thoughts in the comments (even if you completely contradict my advice, I'm always open to the possibility of being wrong). :)
Btw, these questions have to do with editing your work.
How do you get started with the editing process?
As far as I'm concerned, the editing process is sometimes going on as early as the actual first draft when I'm deciding what to write. But that said, I often try to just write and let ideas and images come out. When I do this I can sometimes start editing as soon as I finish the draft, but more likely I'll have to let the draft sit for some period of time before revisiting. That period of time could be anywhere from half-an-hour to several weeks (or longer). That's why I copy all my poems down into notebooks--so that I can always revisit old ideas and develop into new pieces if the mood strikes.
There are many things I look for when I revise, but those are based off comments I've received over the years about things I tend to do with my writing. For instance, I try to eliminate the word "it"--unless I can justify its existence. And I prefer active verbs over passive verbs, etc. Also, I read over the poem for rhythm and examine the poem to see if I can give it structure without sacrificing the meaning or flow. And there are many other things--someday I may write a book on them all.
How do you know when it's finished?
A poet friend of mine likes to say that a poem is never finished, and I tend to agree. I mean, look at Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman--it went through the revision process until there was a "deathbed edition." There's no perfect poem; therefore, you can always play around with them. When you can't find anything new to do to the poem, though, it's usually a good time to try submitting it. If it's accepted, great. If it's rejected, the time apart from the poem may give you new ideas on ways to play with it.
Should you hire an editor or just go with your gut?
I think poets need to develop their guts; I also think poets should never hire an editor. In addition, poets are served well by developing relationships with other poets who can help critique their work. And the critiquing should go both ways. The process of thinking about what works and doesn't work in another's poems can be very beneficial if you then look for similar flaws in your own work. And the feedback you receive from other poets will give you the opportunity to defend your poetic decisions or admit that improvements could be made. No matter what, you should thank anyone who volunteers their time to give you feedback--even if it's not an easy pill to swallow.
Hope that was helpful. And if you have additional comments, please share them with everyone in the comments section below--so the whole group can benefit from your insight.
If you happen to have questions of your own you would like to see addressed on the blog, feel free to send 'em my way with "Poetry FAQs" in the subject line to robert.brewer@fwpubs.com. I can't promise I'll answer them all, but I will try to do what I can.
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Friday, June 27, 2008 7:47:05 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Monday, June 09, 2008
E-mail Shenanigans
Posted by Robert
The hot weather must be driving all the crazies inside and into their e-mail accounts. I received a plethora of weird e-mail messages today, but I'm not going to focus on the weird here; instead, I'm going to share two e-mails that I thought might be relevant to poets. If I've harped on these practices before, I apologize in advance, but...
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The first e-mail opened with a line that always makes me cringe: "Dear Sirs."
For the record, never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever open your correspondence with "Dear Sirs"--or "Dear Gentlemen," for that matter. If you don't know the editors name, just open with "Dear Editor."
The actual e-mail message itself is not as important or as memorable as this opening faux pas. If you do this in a cover letter, you could totally shoot your submission in the foot before the editor even gets a chance to make a call on your actual poetry.
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The second e-mail started off with a bad opening, too, in "To Whom It May Concern." Again, if you don't know, just use "Dear Editor." But the opening was not the bad part of this e-mail, because hidden within was the following question: "How can I go about making money off my poems without losing my rights and ownership of my writing?"
There are multiple parts to that question. First, there's the whole making money off poetry thing. That's just not how poetry works. Sure, there are places that pay for poems and contests with monetary awards, but poetry is not a type of writing that is self-sustaining for most poets. So it's always silly to talk about poetry in terms of money; if you want to make money writing, write nonfiction.
Second, there's the whole losing rights and ownership of writing thing. While submitting your poetry to a publication can often give that publication the first publication rights to your poem, you retain all other rights unless you actively sign them away (something I would never advise any poet doing under any circumstances).
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So poets can rest easy about losing rights and ownership of their work, and they can quit deluding themselves into thinking major money is just a submission away. And if you're not sure who to address your cover letter when submitting poems, remember to keep it simple at "Dear Editor"--or even "Dear Poetry Editor."
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Monday, June 09, 2008 6:42:04 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Thursday, June 05, 2008
Rejection IS better than nothing
Posted by Robert
Was talking to another editor yesterday about Novel & Short Story Writer's Market--which is my current top priority project at work--when she, a fiction writer, mentioned that she had received two rejections in the past week. Suddenly, I felt envious--she was, at least, receiving rejections. She, at least, was submitting her work. I have not been submitting at all.
There's no excuse. I can say I've been busy with work; I can say I've been busy writing; I can say I've been blah-blah-blah; but the simple fact is that I've just not been submitting. I haven't been taking care of that part of my creative side. And it's an important part.
After all, there are more benefits to submitting your work than just receiving an acceptance, publication, and--rarely, though I hear it does happen--payment for your poetry. In fact, I've found acceptance is sometimes disappointing, because as my girlfriend likes to say, "I've lost that poem and can't submit it anywhere else."
Here are the benefits of submitting:
* Acceptance. This is always the goal of submitting: to be accepted and for people to read your work.
* Feedback. A few times, I've had poems rejected, but received a little feedback on the poem and/or some words of encouragement, such as, "This one nearly made the cut," or, "We really liked this one, but it didn't fit." While this is not an acceptance, it can definitely fire you up to get that poem (or poems) back in the mail (or email) to another publication.
* Rejection. It sounds silly to think that receiving a form rejection could be a benefit. After all, not only are you being told you didn't make the cut, but there are no indications that you were even in the running. Total. Complete. Bummer. Right? Not exactly. If you approach rejection from the correct angle, it's validation that someone read your work. It's also a testament to your hard work ethic and effort in trying to get published. It's also a challenge to look over your poem(s) again--should it have been rejected? Are there ways to improve? If yes, then do it. And re-submit. If no, then re-submit and show that you're the tough (and professional) kind of poet who will persevere through rejection.
The worst is when you receive nothing--especially when the reason you receive nothing is that you haven't been submitting. That's akin to saying, "I don't care." Which is fine if you just write for yourself, but if you want to reach out to others and give them one more voice to consider, if you want to touch at least one other person and let them know--hey, I've been there, too--then please do yourself a favor and submit your work. There's really no excuse not to.
And now, I'll get off my soapbox and start practicing what I preach. After all, how am I going to add to my credit list if I don't have any submissions out making the rounds? Geez!
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Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:41:19 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Sunday, June 01, 2008
Poetry From the Skies
Posted by Robert
Just stumbled across this interesting story of a book author promoting his book by dropping cash from a plane. You can check out the article here. Apparently, another publicity stunt helped him become a bestselling author in Indonesia a few years back.
Since I'm always wondering how to drum up interest in poetry, I started wondering if dropping money from the sky would help the poetic cause as well. Something tells me no, or if yes, then it would be for all the wrong reasons. However, maybe there's a way to slightly change Tung Desem Waringin's approach.
Instead of dropping money from the sky, maybe dropping poems from the sky would work. Maybe litter the streets with 8x11 sheets of paper with poems on both sides. Maybe do this once a week over every decent-sized city in the U.S. After all, if people are bombed with poetry long enough, there's a chance they may actually read--and (gasp!) enjoy what they're reading.
Or maybe I should get my head out of the clouds. Commentary | Poetry News
Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:06:32 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Tuesday, May 27, 2008
On Handling Criticism and Critique Groups
Posted by Robert
Over the weekend, I was asked by a poet for tips on how to handle criticism as he tried thinking out whether he should join a writing critique group. With his work, he was afraid of a few things:
- He wouldn't be able to handle the critiques. That is, he was afraid too much negativity would lead him to give up writing.
- He wouldn't find the right readers to give critiques. He'd written a massive blank verse poem, and he's afraid the wrong group won't appreciate his words.
- He won't appreciate the written words of his peers. He seemed to have a particular view of other contemporary writers--thinking much of today's writing is kinda like spam.
Now, I'm not going to get into a debate of his stance on contemporary poetry, which I personally think has very good vital signs. However, as a former participant of several online critique groups and a student that logged more than 60 credit hours in writing courses at the University of Cincinnati, I will speak a little on the value of critique groups.
So there, I've already tipped my hand: I think critique groups are valuable, even if you don't agree with the critiques. And here's why:
First, the only way to gauge if something is actually working for your readers is to solicit feedback. Sure, you know what you're trying to do, but you don't know if anyone else is picking up on it unless you hear it from your readers. After all, you can't go around explaining your intentions to every reader--unless you actually want a very small audience.
Second, bad feedback is still valuable, because it forces you to look hard at your work and try to justify exactly why a particular line or image is fine as it is. And you need to be honest with yourself. If you can't honestly defend your work, then you may have an area that needs revision.
Third, there's nothing better than good feedback. After taking in all the praise though, be sure to develop a certain sense of paranoia. Is everything really okay? Can I change a line here or there? I've found that when I receive absolutely no negative feedback that I'm usually more self-critical of my work. After all, there's no such thing as a perfect poem.
Fourth, critique groups give you the ability to talk out problems you're having. If you know something's not working, you can ask the group to pay attention to x or y and give specific feedback.
Fifth, critique groups provide camaraderie with other poets. And that's often hard to do, especially if you don't live in a major city--but even there, poets are a bit hermetic and love to fly solo.
So there are some reasons why critique groups--as well as workshops, conferences and creative writing programs--are a good thing (in my opinion).
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As far as handling the criticism, as mentioned above, you should always be prepared to defend and scrutinize your work. It's a crazy tightrope act, but one that poets need to perform to get the most out of their lines.
Personally, I always bring a new poem to my critique group hoping for the best and expecting the worst. Usually, I find my words are somewhere in the middle.
Currently, I'm not a part of a critique group, but I still have some trusted readers for poems that I feel are close to getting where I want them to be. These are the readers I trust to let me know if my writing is hitting the mark or falling short. I know they'll let me know, because we've built up a level of trust over the years--both in giving and receiving criticism. Hopefully, if you haven't already, you will be able to find such a group of trusted readers.
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Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:44:53 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Friday, May 23, 2008
Female Poet Laureate?!?
Posted by Robert
Found these articles this week on the poet laureate situation in England:
* "Call for female poet laureate," by Gary Bills-Geddes from Ledbury Reporter
* "Pressure on Burnham over female poet," from The First Post
* "Queen is asked to appoint first female Poet Laureate after 22 men in 340 years," by Arifa Akbar from The Independent
Long story short: England has had 22 men poet laureates over a 340-year span without a single female. From John Dryden's appointment in 1668 to Andrew Motion's farewell this October, not one single woman poet has held the title of poet laureate. Understandably, this issue is causing a bit of an uproar across the Atlantic.
I mean, it took me less than one year to appoint my first female poet laureate on Poetic Asides: Sara Diane Doyle. That's right! It took me less than 12 months to do something England still hasn't been able to do in 340 years. One more reason why Poetic Asides rocks!
How many more 10-year tenures will be served in England before a female poet laureate is picked? My guess is that the noise on this issue will get so loud that Motion's successor will be a female. That said, if I were putting odds on whether the next laureate will be male or female, I'd only make it 51-49 in favor of female. After all, the men of England have a 340-year winning streak going strong.
(Wow! I still can't believe it's been 340 years without a female poet laureate. Can you? It's completely mind blowing.) Commentary | Poetry News | Poets
Friday, May 23, 2008 4:38:04 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Sunday, May 11, 2008
Poets Have Mothers, Too!
Posted by Robert
And if you're looking for a brilliant, cost effective, creative and last minute gift for Mother's Day, do what I plan on doing for my mother: Write her a poem.
Actually, I'm going to go a few steps beyond that. First, I've written the poem. Second, I will get one of those two-picture frames tomorrow. Third, I will insert the poem into one half of the frame. Fourth, I'll insert a picture of my two brothers and I in the other half.
Wow! Super easy. Super cheap. Super creative. And super last minute. But I guarantee you my mom will be knocked off her feet and overcome with emotion.
(Note: While this kind of gift usually works with moms, it's sometimes frowned upon by the dads. Better to stick to your usual gameplan of a tie and a Father's Day card that farts or burps.)
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Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:32:16 AM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Friday, May 09, 2008
Thank You IRS!
Posted by Robert
While I'm not sure how much this stimulus/rebate thing-a-ma-bob is actually going to help the economy (just as I was skeptical of the earlier stimulus check that apparently didn't help out), I'm more than happy to have received a bounce in my checking account this morning. Yay!
I know not everyone who reads this blog is from the United States. So I'm sorry you don't get the crazy cash influx, but for those poets who are expecting (or have already received) a rebate check, let me give you an idea of how you might invest some of this money.
- Subscribe to a literary journal or three. Not only is it good reading, but you'll be learning what poems each journal wants. Plus, you'll be supporting the poetry community, which helps everyone from the poets to the publishers.
- Buy some Forever stamps. Check with your local post office to verify, but these stamps can apparently be used forever--despite any increases in First-Class stamp rates. So, you could stock up now on the stamps you can use to mail your poetry submissions forever.
- Purchase poetry supplies. Go ahead and buy surplus amounts of your favorite pens, pencils, pads of paper, erasers, etc. Heck, get a huge dry erase board that you can turn into a brainstorming or draft board for your poems (or a great place to doodle while you're thinking of a poem).
- Attend a writing conference or workshop. Why slowly save for a conference or workshop experience when the government is sending you enough money to cover the expenses of most events now? This could be your once in a lifetime chance to really connect with other writers.
- Build a Web site. Personally, I've thought about using some of my rebate check to finally create my own site to highlight my achievements (or lack of achievements). Web sites are great, because it allows you to give people a destination to find out more about you, your publishing efforts, and more.
Of course, another option is to use the rebate to pay for the skyrocketing prices of gas and food. Yesterday morning, I was dumbstruck by the price of regular unleaded: $3.79 per gallon. Say what?!? Advice | Commentary | Personal Updates | Poetry Publishing
Friday, May 09, 2008 2:58:13 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Friday, April 04, 2008
April PAD Challenge: Day 4
Posted by Robert
Sorry for the late post today. It's been a doozy of a morning. First, the power was knocked out by some intense storms early this morning, so my alarm did not wake me up this morning. Luckily, my girlfriend called--giving me just enough time to rush over and make my oil change appointment (in a very disoriented state of mind). Once at the dealership, I was told the average oil change wait time is 30-45 minutes. "Good, good," I thought, "that'll give me just enough time to get a start on my poem for today." So anyway, I guess I should've been trying to get a start on my Great American Novel, because 105 minutes later I'm politely asking if maybe they called my name and I didn't hear them. "Actually, no," they said--also politely, "The car in line before you had problems getting off THE RACK." So yeah, I'm not one to make a big fuss, so I said, "Cool," and sat back down worried about posting for y'all (because I'm always thinking of my wonderful blog readers) and just attributed it to some weird Friday bad luck. Anyway, 2 hours after arriving, they finally had me set to go. I pull out my wallet and find out that all I have to do is sign my name and leave. The service guy didn't even bother telling me it was on the house, and--as mentioned earlier--I'm not one of those people who pushes for that kind of stuff. So, yeah, nice ending to a weird morning. I'm thankful for the way they treated me without forcing me to be a jerk--and without making a big "to do" about how they were giving me excellent customer service by putting it on the house. It's the little things really. Anyway, that was a huge ramble. And now, on to the prompt!
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Actually, that ramble kind of perfectly fits in with today's prompt, which is to write a thankful poem (at the time, I was thinking TGIF=thankful poem?). Another option is to write a tribute poem. The thankful/tribute poem can be dedicated to a person, an inanimate object, an idea, a day of the week, etc.
For my part, I used this prompt to write a poem on a subject that I've just never been able to tackle: my mother. She's one of those people who is so perfect that every poem I've ever tried writing about her has been kind of blah. But you know what, who cares? So here goes:
"My Mother"
She began working in a car factory at 18, got married, had 3 boys, and thought of eventually doing something other than working in a car factory. But she believed in providing. Even after the divorce, she worked and worked and did not let it keep her from shuttling 3 boys between practices and events; she did not let it keep her from attending those events and getting to know the boys' friends; and she never once complained "it's not fair." She was the only parent to be so involved who also gave her children the freedom to grow up at indie rock shows and staying out late at night. "Just wake me when you get in," she'd say, "so I don't wake up worried." She worked and cared for 3 sons, who went on to become 3 successes--who had 1 parent to thank for everything.
This poem is sappy and personal and the kind of poem many serious poets would attack as not poetry. I would seriously dispute any such claim. I agree that this is not "publishable poetry," but it is still poetry. Just because a poem is not meant for The New Yorker or The Atlantic, it doesn't mean that it's not a poem--or even that it's not a good poem. For instance, this poem really helped remind me just how thankful I am for my mother and how much she means to me. And when I read it to her tonight, I know she'll realize just how much she means to me as well. So even though this poem is only intended for an audience of 2--it scores a 100% for those two. Don't value your poetry solely off your publication credits and rejection slips; by writing and sharing your writing, you are doing something great. For real.
I'm sorry; I'm totally rambly and sentimental this morning/early afternoon. :)
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Some quick notes: First, I'm going to be visiting my grandmother in the Gatlinburg, Tennessee, area this weekend. She doesn't have a computer; and I've never tried locating the Internet down there--so my posts this weekend may be a bit on the inconsistent side. I'm going to try and keep them coming in the mornings though.
Second, due to popular request, I'm going to randomly provide posts with poems that I've particularly liked from each day's prompt--probably grouping a few prompts together. So on Monday, I'll see if I can get that first batch together.
Third, I'm very thankful to all of you who've been participating in this challenge with me. Your responses have totally overwhelmed me (in a fantastic way). Let's keep at it!
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Friday, April 04, 2008 5:36:03 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Thursday, March 27, 2008
Why there's no one true form of poetry (and why there shouldn't be)
Posted by Robert
Stumbled upon "Japanese Poetry Persists in Korea, Despite Disapproval," by Choe Sang-Hun from The New York Times, and found myself going back over that dangerous territory of what the purpose of poetry might be, could be and should be.
In this case, the poetic forms used by Korean poets can actually cause public shame and disapproval. Imagine getting dissed at a writers conference because you write triolets or kyrielles--not because they're bad poems, but because they're poetic forms with French origins. Such actions take poetry out of the realm of "just words" and makes it a very human activity.
Poetry is always important, but it reaches a new level when poets feel they have to hide their tanka and haiku out of fear and/or shame.
So read the article and think about it; talk about it with your friends; and keep it in mind throughout National Poetry Month (April here in the States).
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Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:40:59 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Wednesday, March 26, 2008
Is poetry a collectible commodity?
Posted by Robert
There's nothing especially unique about this news story about Eureka Books celebrating national poetry month. I mean, many poets (including me) have their plans for getting through April. But reading the article kickstarted my brain into motion: Can poetry be a collectible commodity?
It's so obvious that the answer is yes. But even with my background in collecting bubble gum cards and comics I still had trouble seeing the forest from the trees. I, of course, know the value of a first edition of books, but most trade books are not printed with the intent of becoming a collectible--it's just something that happens when an unknown author suddenly finds him or her self in the position of being Stephen King or J.K. Rowling. If the publishers knew they were going to sell 500,000 copies initially, then they would've printed them up that way (notice the difference in how many first edition copies of Harry Potter were printed between Potter's first year and seventh at Hogwarts).
Anyway, I'm getting off topic. In the article above, Jack Irvine says, "Broadsides have become very popular among collectors, because it's an affordable way to get a signed, limited edition work by a favorite author. It's a great way to display a work of literature on the wall, and they do frame up very nicely."
I found speaking about poetry in this way very interesting. It sounds as if the broadsides could be framed as works of art. Imagine someone visiting your house and admiring your framed paintings and then stopping to read a very moving poem--with maybe some cool design elements to complement the work. Now that's art! And that's a collectible, for sure.
So maybe this is yet another avenue for poetry. I know savvy publishers have been going this route for ages, but still. Let me have my epiphanic moment. Okay. Done.
I just wonder if we can ever get to a point where 10-year-old boys and girls are swapping a Bob Hicok and Gwendolyn Brooks for a Louis Gluck and William Carlos Williams. One can always hope.
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Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:43:26 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Tuesday, March 11, 2008
Difficulty in poetry & an argument against a Michigan poet laureate
Posted by Robert
"Poetry, Difficulty, and a Very Annoying Word," by Mark Doty from The Best American Poetry blog, is an interesting response to Charles Harper Webb's recent essay in The Writers Chronicle. Plus, you get to experience (through Doty's description) what his walk home was like.
I was happy to read Doty's response, because he did not attack accessibility in poetry while defending complexity. Many poets seem to slide over to one corner or the other. Of course, variety is the spice of life and there should be room at the table for everyone and why can't everyone just get along, etc.
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"Poetry Slam," by James M. Hohman from the Mackinac Center, argues against wasting Michigan taxpayers' money on a unpaid state poet laureate position. With new state and city poet laureates popping up all over the country, it is interesting to hear a voice arguing against the post.
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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:31:27 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Friday, February 29, 2008
Board up the doors!
Posted by Robert
Cover the windows! Dim the lights! But not too much, because you need to get writing today and into the night (late, late, late at night). After all, today is an extra day that you only get once every four years. If you don't write today, you won't be able to write on February 29 again until 2012.
2012!
Seriously, can you really live without writing for 4 years?
Of course you can't!
This is an extra day--24 hours that shouldn't even exist. Make sure you take advantage of this little gift, this little extra bit of February.
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Here's a challenge. Why not try writing a leap year poem? Either write your poem into the comments below, or send to my email (robert.brewer@fwpubs.com). If I get one or two that knock my socks off, I'll feature them (and the poets who wrote them) in a future post. Plus, I'll get working on one myself.
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Friday, February 29, 2008 2:24:26 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Wednesday, February 20, 2008
Sample Cover Letter From Pebble Lake Review
Posted by Robert
The editors at Pebble Lake Review offer a sample cover letter. This specific example is for fiction, but it's easy to see how it could be modified for poetry.
http://www.pebblelakereview.com/samplecoverletter.htm
A word of advice: Any time editors go out of their way to give you specific tips or samples of ways to prepare your submission, you should pay attention and follow their guidance. Trying to get overly "cute" or "creative" can get you an auto rejection slip.
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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:56:12 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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Feeding poetry to the kids
Posted by Robert
"Windham Poetry Group Overcomes Adversity," by Heather Murdock from The Daily Campus, reports on a high school poetry group that's been performing locally and competing in poetry slams since early 2004.
As someone who founded and published a little lit zine in the mid-90s, I think high school is a perfect time for getting young adults interested in poetry. With all the fear, self-doubt and optimism that comes with being a teenager, this is the perfect age to record thoughts and emotions on paper (or computer screen).
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But just because high school is an opportune time, it doesn't mean that you need to wait for kids to grow complex emotions and apply for college. For instance, junior high works just as well.
"Poetry comes alive for some 7th-graders," from the Post and Courier, reports: "For the seventh-grade students of River Oaks Middle School, poetry will never be just a few boring rhymes they had to memorize in school."
And poetry never should be just some lines to read or learn. It should be something to experience and enjoy--whether the poems are funny, sad, difficult, or scary.
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I don't think you can ever start too early on building an appreciation of poetry in children. As the father of two boys aged four and six, I've been reading them poems since before they could talk themselves. Their favorite is probably "The Raven," by Edgar Allan Poe (they love everything spooky).
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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 4:11:42 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Thursday, February 14, 2008
Will you be my valentine?
Posted by Robert
So today is Valentine's Day. Some people love it; some people hate it; and some people think it was invented (or at least promoted) by greeting card and chocolate companies. Here's a fairly detailed Wikipedia link about the holiday: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentine's_Day.
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Love and poetry are classically linked. What is The Odyssey but a very long love poem?
Also, poets such as Ted Kooser have openly admitted their early attempts at poetry were to woo potential partners (that's how yours truly got wrapped up in poetry). By the way, check out this review of Kooser's Valentines book.
Even the reclusive Emily Dickinson has been known to write a love poem or two. In fact, here are 57: http://www.bartleby.com/113/index3.html.
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And poets always seem to be hooking up, though it should be noted not all poet couples stand the test of time (for instance, Sylvia Plath and Ted Hughes). Perhaps, Robert and Elizabeth Barrett Browning are the most popular example of romance between poets--but they are not the only example.
Even today, there are plenty of couples: C.D. Wright and Forrest Gander; Dorianne Laux and Joseph Millar; James Cummins and Maureen Bloomfield; etc.
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And as part of the Valentine's Day celebration, I'm going to share a poem I wrote recently to mark the day. It was inspired by those stale Sweethearts candy with those little messages, the longing for youth, and, of course, the love I feel for another poet (she knows who she is).
"At the Arboretum"
From his box of Sweethearts, he hands her candy that reads CUTIE PIE before eating his own WILD LIFE. They walk the paved path to a pond filled with sleeping koi. A sign warns KEEP OFF GRASS, but she leads him there anyway. In high school, this is where he would run across the frozen pond and wander off the trails and into the summer creek water. He hands her CLOUD NINE and pops a CHILL OUT. He remembers being young and cold in February, but a sweater feels just right today. He's not in high school anymore he thinks and starts to move back toward the path. But then, she touches his arm, whispers, "Stay."
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Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:05:44 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Monday, February 11, 2008
Are You Planning Ahead for a Big Hit in Poetry?
Posted by Robert
I received a couple questions over the weekend as part of my Writer's Market thing I do. And I thought they both would work well as things to ponder here. In fact, I'm opening myself up to poetry specific questions at my work email (robert.brewer@fwpubs.com) if you put "Poetic Asides Poetry Question" in your subject line AND if you refrain from asking me to critique your poetry (while I'd be honored, I just don't have the time to critique everyone's work).
If I get enough good questions, I'll try and answer some here from time to time.
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Question 1 had to do with planning ahead. The writer was ashamed she didn't know where to start with writing and getting published. This is a common problem, and the answer is very simple: Start by writing and not worrying about the other stuff.
Too many writers, including poets, worry about making money and finding fame before they've actually finished their manuscripts. Don't trouble yourself over all the riches and awards your writing is sure to earn you. Just write and enjoy the writing process.
As you're writing, you can (and should) read as many literary journals as you can. This is where you will be trying to place your poetry, so you should be studying these journals to have a good idea which journals match up well with what you're writing.
After you've got a lot of great material, read up on the do's and don't's of submitting your poetry. Then, read the specific guidelines of where you're submitting. As soon as you pull the trigger on submitting, don't wait around for a response: Get your butt back in your chair and craft some more poems.
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Tied to that 1st question I received this email (name omitted for privacy): "I am a very accomplished author and writer and I have written eleven poetry books to date now in a series. But I cannot seem to be able to land a good agent to represent me with my poetry books. They keep saying that they don't do poetry. I know that there is a big market for good poetry books. My newest two-book set of 600 poems is going to be a hit. Please help!"
Okay, so that's not really a question. It's a call for help.
The problem here is that this "very accomplished author" has an unrealistic view of the poetry market. Most bookstores reserve very little room for poetry. And then, the space in that rare shelf space is dominated by "the classics" and major award winning poets. So, there's usually no room for "good poetry books" by other poets--whether they are accomplished or not (in non-poetry fields).
Poetry is not a "get rich quick" method of writing. And literary agents are usually going to have no interest in representing poetry, because agents make 10-15% of what their authors make. And no agent is interested in working for 15% of 2 free contributor copies or even $50 (for those poets who do hit it big).
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So the message of this post (I really should try to have a message, shouldn't I?) is that you shouldn't get caught up in wondering what's going to happen to your poetry after you write it; you should just write it.
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Monday, February 11, 2008 8:17:10 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Monday, February 04, 2008
Should poets be treated like rock stars?
Posted by Robert
Of course they should!
Read: "Poet-mania: Mary Oliver's sold-out appearance sparks a ticket frenzy on Craigslist," by John Marshall from SeattlePI.com
The article reports on the popularity of Mary Oliver in the Pacific Northwest with tickets selling out at venues in both Seattle and Portland. And the demand is still so high that tickets have been traded on Craigslist for as much as $100 each. That's incredible!
As you'll notice in the article, Oliver has managed to make an emotional connection with her fans. So while it is essential to study the craft and technique of poetry, never forget to inject a healthy dose of heart as well.
While it's doubtful poets will re-shape popular culture into a poet-centric society with tabloids following the personal messes of contemporary poets (a la Britney Spears and Michael Jackson), Mary Oliver's success in the Pacific Northwest is helping keep the dream alive.
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Monday, February 04, 2008 2:17:16 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Friday, January 25, 2008
Exit, Stage Left...
Posted by Nancy
I don't know how many readers here are old enough to remember the old Snagglepuss cartoons (or maybe they've shown them on Cartoon Network or something). Anyhow, whenever Snagglepuss was poised to flee, he'd talk in stage directions: "Exit--stage left!" And off he'd shoot, accompanied by that little gunshot echo they love to use as sound effects in animation.
I'm too old and creaky to dash off in a blur, and I'm not that dramatic. So pardon me if my exit is a little more restrained.
As I mentioned in this post, I'm leaving my position as Poet's Market editor. Fortunately, it turns out I'm moving into another editor position in an area about which I'm extremely enthusiastic (although far outside the world of poetry and writing). That puts me in a better place, pragmatically and emotionally, than I thought I'd be today; but that's not to say I don't have regrets about leaving Poet's Market behind.
I tallied up, and Judson Jerome and I are tied for the most times our names appeared on the spine of Poet's Market as editor (seven). In addition, I came in toward the end of the production cycle for the 2001 edition, and I've already done considerable planning and hands-on work on the upcoming 2009 edition. So it's nice to think I was here long enough to leave my mark on the book.
I hope that mark was a positive one. I started right in trying to improve Poet's Market based on my own experiences using the book as a consumer. I tried to give equal consideration to readers and to the editors and publishers listing their activities in the book. I wanted Poet's Market to be valuable to as wide a range of poets as possible. I probably didn't always succeed, but it wasn't for lack of trying.
I have a farewell message in today's edition of the Poet's Market newsletter; I've decided to repeat it here because it does already say what I wanted to express in this last post:
A Few Lines from the (former) Editor...
"All good things must come to an end." I've never understood that saying. After all, everything comes to an end eventually.
However, for me, in this specific instance, something good is coming to an end: Today, January 25, marks my final day as editor of Poet's Market. Hence, this is my last newsletter as well.
This is one of those developments that took me by surprise, but I've been around awhile; things happen and nothing is forever. While I'm sorry to be leaving Poet's Market, I'm eagerly anticipating new opportunities.
For now, Poet's Market will continue. Look for the 2009 edition in stores this August. As for me, I'll still be lurking (literally and figuratively). As I've repeated many times recently, I'm still a poet; and I'm looking forward to trying to get my work out there more aggressively than I have in recent years.
I always loved the book title So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish (part of Douglas Adams's Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series). What a great exit line. So, to all of you, so long, and thanks for all the fish--and for all the enjoyment and fulfillment I've had editing Poet's Market for nearly eight years. I valued my interaction with readers and editors/publishers alike. Now, I join all of you as a reader (and a fellow poet struggling to get her work into print).
Best of luck, and keep writing!
Nancy Breen Former Editor Poet's Market
Robert Brewer will, of course, continue his great posts on Poetic Asides (the blog is his brainchild, after all). And the Poet's Market newsletter will continue on a monthly basis. (Go to the Poet's Market website to sign up, if you're not already a subscriber.) You can still go here for information about listing in the 2009 edition (and to download listing questionnaires for each section of the book). Any questions about poetry, publishing, or Poet's Market? This e-mail will take your inquiry to the folks who can get you squared away.
And now--exit, stage left! (Hey, did you hear that little gunshot echo?)
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Friday, January 25, 2008 2:43:06 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Friday, December 28, 2007
Poetic Bookstore Blues
Posted by Robert
Last night, I decided to browse a couple bookstores in my neck of the woods for a good literary journal or poetry collection. For some odd reason, I never seem to learn my lesson about looking for poetry at the big chains. While they have a wonderful selection of about everything else, the poetry section is usually lacking.
While both stores had titles by Maya Angelou, Billy Collins and all the great, late poets, there was little consistency after. For instance, neither store had anything by Bob Hicok (one of my faves). One had no Kooser, the other no Gluck. So yeah, total buzzkill on the poetry collections.
But I figured with racks upon racks of magazines covering everything from farming to home decor that I should at least be able to find a lit journal to get me excited, right? I mean, lit journals are a major section of Writer's Market, after all.
However, the literary section totally let down. It was small. And though size shouldn't matter, most of the journals contained no poetry. The ones with poetry did not sweep me off my feet. Sigh.
I shouldn't be surprised. This happens to me all the time when I visit the chain bookstores--especially around these parts. I just don't understand why they can't stock their magazine racks, at least, with copies of the local lit journals like The Journal or The Cincinnati Review. Is that too much to ask?
Anyway, totally not trying to be a downer right before the New Year and all, but this is why nobody buys poetry. Seriously.
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Friday, December 28, 2007 4:49:55 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Sunday, December 23, 2007
Art, poetry and enigma: Giorgio de Chirico
Posted by Robert
When I'm not reading poetry, I love reading those Taschen art biographies. First, artists paint (hehe) interesting lives. Second, the paintings included in the biographies often work as excellent poetry prompts.
I'm reading about Italian painter Giorgio de Chirico at the moment. De Chirico worked as a surrealist and thought his life was connected to that of Friedrich Nietzche. As he found his voice (or do painters find their vision?), de Chirico grew increasingly fascinated with enigma.
Quick quote: "To become truly immortal, a work of art must escape all human limits: logic and common sense will only interfere." -Giorgio de Chirico
There's a lot of truth in this quote by de Chirico. While rules are the foundation of good writing, great writing often bends or breaks the rules slightly. The "imperfection" makes the work memorable and beautiful. It's not always the case, but technically perfect can often be perfectly technical (and boring). So getting back to de Chirico, art must push beyond the logic and common sense of good writing to become great writing.
Anyway, here are two poetry-related de Chirico images:
"The Poet and His Muse"
"The Delights of the Poet"
To get back to one of the reasons I read these art biographies, use these two images to jumpstart your own poem. If you feel so inclined, feel free to share on here.
Happy holidays!
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Sunday, December 23, 2007 2:42:10 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Monday, December 17, 2007
Free Poems vs. Copyright Infringement
Posted by Nancy
There's a battle of opinions regarding copyright at The Guardian. In "You like my poems? So pay for them," British poet Wendy Cope states her case regarding how copyright infringement damages the sales of her work. In "Free verse: getting copyright wrong," Oliver Burkeman counters with his arguments.
Meanwhile, the NYT's, "Crossover Dreams: Turning Free Web Work Into Real Book Sales," describes a few success stories. (No poetry books cited, alas.)
I don't have a dog in this fight, since I don't have poetry sales to worry about. (Yes, I've published a couple of chapbooks, but I give most of those away anyhow.) On the one hand, I sympathize with Cope's concern about people not buying the cow when they're getting the milk for free; but fretting about people e-mailing each other your work? I agree with Burkeman's take that it has the potential to build sales (and name recognition) rather than destroy it. And popular thinking about free online content is that it encourages readers to purchase a book. (As someone who has often been influenced by onlilne content not to buy a book, though, I'm on the fence about this thinking.)
Overall, I agree that poetry needs to be shared freely to help build its audience and promote the poets themselves. I'd hate to see the Copyright Police hovering in cyberspace, waiting to swoop in as soon as Aunt Helga e-mails a poem to Cousin Rusty to inspire him after his wife's cancer diagnosis. (Is it also damaging to sales if we bloggers link to poems on The Academy of American Poets or The Poetry Foundation sites or posted on a poet's own site or blog? Lots of issues when you start peeling back all the layers.) There's always that problem with something going viral without being properly credited to the author, such as this piece.
I prefer to believe a poem well received will lead to a reader investigating more of that poet's work; and after reading several pieces individually online, the reader will decide he/she wants those poems, and more, in one easily accessible place, i.e., within the covers of a book. It's still too early to see how this will play out in the real world, but we can all hope.
--Nancy Commentary | Poetry News
Monday, December 17, 2007 9:06:37 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Friday, December 14, 2007
A very good instructional book for poets
Posted by Robert
While I don't want to promise that I'll be doing a lot of poetry reviews and critiques and such, I think it makes sense for me to share good things when I happen upon them. The current "good thing" I just finished reading is Ted Kooser's The Poetry Home Repair Manual (Bison Books).
Without getting into metrics or poetic forms, Kooser gives poets a lot of practical instruction on how to write good poetry that will appeal to an audience. In fact, one of Kooser's stronger points is that every poem should be written written with an audience in mind, whether you're writing a poem for dog owners or people who appreciate jazz.
In this book, he also doesn't waste time giving his thoughts on what poetry is and should be: "Poetry is communication, and every word I've written here subscribes to that belief. Poetry's purpose is to reach other people and to touch their hearts. If a poem doesn't make sense to anybody but its author, nobody but its author will care a whit about it. That doesn't mean that your poems can't be cryptic, or elusive, or ambiguous if that's how you want to write, as long as you keep in mind that there's somebody on the other end of the communication."
For poets looking to get published, that's a very important quote, since publication forces the poet to write for three audiences at once. First, poets should always write to satisfy themselves on some level. Second, poets have to write for an editor or team of editors to get their approval. Third, poets have to write for the readers of the publication in question, because editors can love a poem but still not think it fits with their audience (it does happen). Many poets who struggle to get published early in their careers are only writing for that first audience: themselves (myself included).
Anyway, I can't get to all the great instruction Kooser provides in this slim volume that is a quick and delightful read, but here are some highlights:
- The best explanation of when, why and how to use metaphors and similes I've ever come across
- Advice on submitting to publications
- How to deal with line breaks
- The effects of nouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs
- And a lot more
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Friday, December 14, 2007 4:42:34 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Thursday, December 13, 2007
A spoof, a poet, and plenty of jargon
Posted by Robert
"Three cheers for the epic poetry of jargon," by Jonathan Guthrie from the Financial Times, applauds the clever use of jargon by businesses to discourage further correspondence with clients. While this kind of "poetry" is great for businesses, it should be stated that poets will likely have the same effect on their readers if their poems are filled with an obscure personal jargon: Effectively, writers will cut off further correspondence with their readers. While business jargon could add a bit of authenticity to a poem, use with caution.
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"Report Reveals All Poetry is Rubbish," by Amateur Writer from Spoof.com, is a spoof on the importance of poetry reporting on a "1500 page report titled Poetry: Really, what is the Point?" If you're easily offended by poet or poetry put-downs, I would not recommend reading this "fake" report. But if you need a good laugh on a Thursday morning, you've probably already clicked on the link.
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"A poet forged in heartbreak," by Don Aucoin from The Boston Globe, profiles poet Afaa Michael Weaver, a former factory worker, who is now hitting his stride on the national scene, including a cover spot on this month's Poets & Writers. Interesting read, for sure.
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Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:20:36 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Tuesday, December 11, 2007
Found poem, and an elegy...
Posted by Nancy
My sister forwarded an e-mail to me last night that contained her kids' thank-you notes for gifts they received from their aunt and uncle in St. Louis. My four-year-old niece's dictated note struck me as a "found" poem. (My sister describes my niece's dictation as "a stream of consciousness thank you note," but much of my niece's ramblings are like that.)
It's not that I find my niece's note cute; I envy her ability to be so disjointed and random. It all works together somehow. I don't tend to think like that (I'm not sure I did as a child, either). That's probably why I simply can't write avant-garde or experimental poetry. My mind doesn't work that way.
I broke my niece's note into lines to make a small poem of it. I'm sure if she could read she'd abhor my editing--this kid knows she knows what's best, always.
Appreciation
Thank you for doing that. If you like I will say come here one day and that can be the day. Today can be a lot of pretty days. I hope it doesn't rain or snow tonight. And it's not going to snow today or if it doesn't and then if it does... sometimes you can play a game. Thank you for the present and give me another one some day if you make another one. And if a bear catches up with you, don't worry, just get out and try to get it off like this bear, just pull it apart. And if you don't care, I like you.
Robert wrote here about elegies. This morning on the way to work I heard a song that turned my thoughts elegiac. This is for a friend I used to work with at Gibson Greetings.
December Elegy for Lara
Lara insisted: The Christmas season didn't start officially until she'd heard WEBN play Bruce's "Santa Claus is Comin' to Town." One random day in early December we'd look up from our desks to see Lara dancing down the aisle. She wore her traditional hat, a braided fabric Christmas wreath. It sat on her head like a Magi's turban. Then Lara went back to her cubicle and her headphones, and we went back to work.
This morning on the car radio I heard that familiar jingling intro, the cold wind along the boardwalk, and then Bruce and Clarence getting down. Suddenly Lara shimmied before me. Her braided wreath turban was woven with a crown of stars.
--Nancy
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Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:06:35 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Monday, December 03, 2007
Poets Hiding in Their Closets
Posted by Robert
Scanning the poetry news today, I came across "Author reveals his 'secret life' writing poetry," by Lisa Pierce from The Advocate. It's about a poetry event for John Phillip Santos' poetry collection Songs Older Than Any Known Singer (Wings Press).
In the article, Santos says, "Once I moved to New York and began making television shows (the act of writing poetry) became even more private. I was working at CBS News for the first years in New York and it just wasn't something you told your colleagues openly about."
Through the years, I've spoken with many poets who've shared this sentiment where it's okay to be a poet around other poets. But in the everyday life, these same poets are afraid to reveal they're poets around "regular folk" (who may or may not be poets themselves).
I'm often guilty of this myself. In my Clark Kent life, I'm a mild-mannered editor of Writer's Market with two sons and a love of outdoor activities (running, disc golfing, hiking, etc.). But at night, when even crime (or rhyme?) is sleeping, I break out the pen and composition notebook and craft poems with wild abandon as Superman. In the morning, I put my Clark Kent spectacles back on, part my hair in the other direction, and trade in my tights for business casual. If the "regular folk" mention poets or poetry, I usually just give an all-knowing smile without revealing my identity.
Why?!?
Why do poets feel this way? Are poets generally thought of as bad people who should not be around children or small dogs? Are poets considered outcasts who are never invited to social gatherings? I'm pretty sure the answer is no--yet, many poets (myself included, mind you) feel the need to hide their identities around the "regular folk." These are the same "regular folk" most poets lament don't read poetry. Hmmm...
Maybe we should be more open about our identities as poets. Maybe everyone should scrawl that down as a New Year resolution heading into 2008. Put it after reading and writing more poetry past the witching hour.
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In the meantime, read this excellent article by Nancy for Writer's Digest magazine: "The 21st Century Poet."
In it, Nancy goes over a survey conducted by the Poetry Foundation and says, "While we should be most concerned with writing poetry, not who we are as poets, I can't help but think more people would read our work if they realized we're right there waiting in the dentist's office, cheering during our kids' soccer games, getting our tires rotated, walking the dog in the park, comparing the prices of canned beans in Aisle 5 and buying a cup of coffee at the convenience store."
Right on! Commentary | Personal Updates | Poetry News | Poets
Monday, December 03, 2007 10:31:45 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Friday, November 30, 2007
When literary journals become too efficient...
Posted by Robert
...writers start to panic. I love Waldo Jaquith's use of the term "The Angry Letter." As part of my job, I receive many such complaints from writers about not hearing back from a magazine after waiting patiently for a whole month. Maybe they'll be pleased to read Waldo's blog post: "We Are Altogether Too Efficient."
As I raved earlier in this blog, I love VQR's sleek online submission system. It totally threw me for a loop with how efficiently it managed my submission of five poems--automatically notifying my email account that they were received. Even now when I check on the site, my cookies alert the site that I already have five poems currently under review, which five they are, and what the status is.
Hopefully, more journals will go this route. It's easier for the writers, and according to Waldo it's easier for the editors as well. Commentary | Poetry Publishing | Poets
Friday, November 30, 2007 6:18:04 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Monday, November 26, 2007
Poet Confidential: I WAS A GREETING CARD WRITER
Posted by Nancy
Last summer Robert bravely confessed that he had once been duped by one of those poetry anthology operations. My confession may be even more shameful for someone who attempts to be a "serious" poet: I was a professional greeting card writer.
I don't mean I wrote and submitted greeting card verses on the side for extra cash. I was on the writing staff of Gibson Greetings for nine years and was Senior Writer by the time Gibson laid off most of its creative staff in a major downsizing in 1999. (Keep in mind that there were only two writers on staff by that time; contract writers contributed a lot of the verses, especially in humor.) I wrote on contract myself for Gibson for another year, and briefly freelanced after that.
To be honest, I considered the greeting card writer position my dream job and had applied several times over the years before I was hired. I'd been working in administrative support in the college advertising department of an educational publisher, maintaining mailing schedules for promotional pieces, proofreading brochures, typing up purchase orders and generating payments, and providing phone back-up for everyone else in the department. The idea of spending the entire day writing seemed too good to be true.
I did like it. I was good at it, too. However, by the end of the first year, I began to yearn to do something of a utilitarian nature, like filing or processing paperwork. Sitting at my desk all day long trying to come up with new ways of saying "Happy Birthday" without using the words "Happy Birthday" became deadening. And my creative juices dried up from writing on demand five days a week. (We received assignments with specifications: For example, a Christmas card for family, eight lines, rhyming, with a gratitude theme and contemporary tone; any number of people in the family, no direct statement of relationship to anyone in the family, a "3" on a warmth scale of 1-5 [meaning no use of terms like "fondly," "warmly," or love]. I usually turned in three verses for each assignment, sometimes with multiple acceptances for that assignment; since I had over 1,500 verses of all lengths and styles accepted for publication, I probably wrote about 2,500 when I was on staff at Gibson.)
I had already published a lot of poetry when I started at Gibson Greetings, and my poetry skills served me well in writing greeting cards. And, yes, writing card verses does take skill. Besides the talent for rhythm and rhyme the traditional cards required, brevity and precision were equally important, especially for the new wave of contemporary greeting cards that companies were publishing in the early 90s: short, conversational prose. It wasn't that these resembled poetry; but they did require a poet's ability to compress message and imagery into a few carefully chosen words.
One of the most common "doesn't want" statements I see in Poet's Market listings is "Doesn't want greeting card verse." I know just what kind of poetry the editors are citing because Gibson editors saw the same kind of work submitted for greeting cards. "All my friends love my poetry," the cover letter would read, "and they say my poems would make wonderful greeting cards."
Well, no, they wouldn't. Except for verse by writers like Helen Steiner Rice, whose lines are used as "featured quotes" on the covers of traditional and religious cards, greeting cards require a "me-to-you" message, even if it's subtle and implied. So many of the poems submitted to card editors, besides being badly written, were often all about the writer's view of the world, whether it was a description of a fall scene or perspectives on aging with grace. A poem might go on and on about spring as a season of joy and rebirth but never get around to saying "Happy Easter" to the card recipient.
Greeting card editors want quality for their "publications" as well; and they get worn down by having to wade through badly written poems with clunking rhythm and ay-oo singsong rhymes. It would probably come as a shock to most magazine poetry editors that they have more in common with greeting card editors than they could ever imagine (or want to admit).
What was the biggest downside to my long tenure writing greeting card verses? The primary detriment was the blow to my creativity. The more I wrote verses (and I had to produce daily), the less poetry I wrote. I've never entirely recovered. I don't find the joy in sitting down to tackle a poem that I once did. I resist even pursuing a few lines of inspiration jotted down in a notebook. Sometimes a poet can express herself so much that she winds up not being motivated to express herself at all, regardless of the style or venue.
The second blow to my poetic ability: I find it difficult not to produce formal poetry that sounds too smoothly metrical, too carefully rhymed. These poems don't resemble the greeting card verse that poetry editors warn against so much as they seem as overly polished as card verses. They're too clean, their veneer too spotless and shiny. Even a serious sonnet winds up with a patina of what could be defined as glibness (to me, anyhow). I liked my attempts at formal poetry better when I wasn't so practiced in assembling rhymed, metered lines.
I haven't written cards for several years now, except for brief messages in handmade cards. (Funny that I rarely buy a commercial greeting card any more. Maybe it's because I go into "professional" mode as soon as I step up to the card racks, evaluating everything I read and automatically brainstorming for verses of my own that I don't even need to write.) Over time, I may be able to refine my skills in formal verse. In the meantime, I sympathize with editors who cry "No greeting card verse!" but I balk at the implication that actual greeting card verses are always without craft or technique. I know better.
--Nancy Commentary | General | Personal Updates
Monday, November 26, 2007 5:33:55 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Wednesday, November 21, 2007
One Editor's Gratitude
Posted by Nancy
Friday I started sending out magazine/journal verifications for the 2009 edition of Poet's Market. Monday I sent out four more sections' worth of listings, and Tuesday I finished up with the Contest & Awards verifications.
This is my eighth edition as editor of Poet's Market. After all this time, I still feel an enormous flood of gratitude when I see the approved and corrected verifications pouring back to my e-mail in box. These editors, publishers, directors of conferences and contests, presidents of organizations--they choose to list in our directory. There are many that choose not to. Sometimes it's because their publishing ventures have closed, or because they get too many submissions as a result of a Poet's Market listing, or because there's simply no benefit to them for listing in our book. Whatever their reasons, I respect them, and I salute their endeavors. However, that just makes me that much more thankful for those who do want to be part of Poet's Market.
In my cover letter for this year's verification mailings, I requested that any edits be set off in some way (all caps, brackets, strikethrough fonts, whatever) so I don't accidentally overlook some important change in information. I'm floored with how conscientious and helpful editors are being. Many are going above and beyond the basics. Some highlight changes in colored type, others provide numerated lists of edits in addition to their bracketed alterations in the listing; and still others apologize because they had to make so many edits, and then carefully explain them.
Everyone, you have my gratitude for your help in making my job easier.
In addition, I so appreciate the comments editors have been adding to their e-mails. "Thank you for your hard work." "You provide a wonderful service, thank you." "Thanks so much for including us." It sets me back in my seat when I read messages like that, and I keep these words in mind when the production cycle gets really stressful and I start wondering, "Why am I doing this?"
Of course, I don't mean to give short shrift to Poet's Market readers. Yes, I am eternally grateful to and for you. When I hear from a poet (by letter, e-mail, phone, or in person) that Poet's Market really helped them, it makes my day. In the publishing world, books (especially utilitarian ones) are so easily regarded as "products." It's easy to lose sight of the human dimension, something I work hard to avoid. I was a Poet's Market reader long before I became editor, and I haven't forgotten what it was like to study market listings, hoping this would be the magazine that would publish my work. Readers, I am you, and I always will be.
While I'm on the subject of gratitude, I have to mention my blogging partner, Robert Brewer. If you visit this blog often, you know Robert is constantly posting something of interest--news, market updates, poetry forms, and his own tales of going through the submission drill. He is one of you as well. (And he invited me to participate in Poetic Asides with him. Thanks for that, Robert!)
Hope all of you have a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday--with lots to be thankful for.
--Nancy Commentary | Personal Updates
Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:12:09 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Friday, November 16, 2007
Poetry and the Silver Bowl
Posted by Nancy

Yesterday Robert and I were discussing the series of posts he's been doing about poetic forms, and we started talking about how we originally got motivated to try forms after writing mostly in free verse. Robert said a college class had introduced him to poetic forms, and that's when he began to experiment with them and see what he could do.
I told Robert what finally moved me to try to write a sonnet. He thought it was funny and said I should share the story. I think it shows a bad side of my nature that doesn't reflect well on the purity of my literary spirit. However, what is a poet if not honest? So, here's my story of my first sonnet. It all revolves around an engraved silver bowl.
The year was 1985. I was writing and sending out work pretty regularly, but it was all free verse. I hadn't written in rhyme since high school, and I'd never written in a traditional form.
I subscribed to Poets & Writers, which was then named CODA. Among the ads for contests, I saw one for Amelia and the Eugene Smith Sonnet Awards. What had caught my eye was the prize being offered: an engraved silver bowl for each winner, first place through honorable mention.
Here's where I have to 'fess up to a shallow aspect of my personality: I loved winning awards. At first I coveted the encouragement of having my work honored, but over time I realized I loved the actual awards themselves. By 1985 I'd won quite a few.
Most weren't for writing, although I had a few Writer's Digest certificates in my stash of ego-boosting trinkets. I had a ton of county fair and state fair ribbons for needlework and crafts, including my favorite, the luscious Best of Show rosettes with their sunburst of satin ribbon. I also had a first place age division trophy from the clogging championships at the Indiana State Fair, a smaller third place age division trophy from a clogging competition at Silver Dollar City in Branson, Missouri, and several mayoral proclamations (that's another story).
What I didn't have yet was an engraved silver bowl. My mother had a gorgeous trophy Revere bowl for winning the pie championship at the Hamilton County Fair, but I'm a lousy cook. Just to give myself a chance at such a bowl, though, I put myself through the trauma of trying to bake a couple of lamentable pies and entering them in the contest. Naturally, I didn't win.
So, when I saw silver bowls being offered as prizes for poetry, my lust knew no bounds. I would enter the Eugene Smith Sonnet Prizes contest in the hopes of winning my silver bowl--even though I'd never written a sonnet in my life.
I consulted several books on poetic forms and read all about the Petrarchan, the Shakespearean, and other styles of sonnets. I decided I'd better choose the Shakespearean on my first try. I scribbled and fiddled and finally wrote my sonnet. Then I mailed it off to Amelia.
And you know what? I won second place! I was beside myself. Of course, as you can tell from the photo above, my "bowl" wound up being more of a relish tray, but it was silver and it was engraved. It was mine.
Did that sate my desire for awards? No way. I still had never won a medal, or an engraved plaque, or a rosette from the State Fair. Eventually I got a clogging medal (third place, age division in a small regional contest) and some medals, including first place, at Cincinnati's Irish feis (one was even for dancing, in a group category; the others were for needlework). Eventually I won Best of Show several times at the Ohio State Fair. I also amassed a pile of certificates from Ohio Poetry Day over the years, and a couple from The National Federation of State Poetry Socities competition.
I even won a second silver bowl from Amelia, in the Amelia Awards. It was for second honorable mention; and the editor, Frederick Raborg, wrote to me saying they'd been having a lot of problems with the quality of the silver bowls. They were going to discontinued offering them for future contests. In fact, I could have a cash award for my prize instead of the bowl if I wished. No, I wrote back, it wasn't about the money. If it wasn't too much trouble, I wanted my silver bowl.
I eventually did outgrow my mania for awards, and many of those old trophies and things are in a closet. The silver bowls have faded into the background of my china cabinet. In fact, I had to do some serious polishing just to make my Eugene Smith bowl halfway presentable to take a photo. Every now and then I judge poetry contests, so I've stepped through the looking glass to the other side. Even though I still haven't gotten that engraved plaque, my competitive days are behind me.
In case you'd like to read that first sonnet that won me my silver bowl, here it is. I never wrote a lot of sonnets or became particularly good at it; and I write in forms less now than I did a decade ago because of a deterioration of my "formal" skills (the cause of which I'll address another time).
MAMMOGRAM VS. THE THING
The scopes and tools of radiology remind me of some cinematic scene where radar trails Godzilla undersea or tracks the flight of Mothra on the screen. Could something evil lurk, unknown, within, (gasp!) coiled in secret, waiting to attack?!? (And don't these preying monsters seldom win before the final credits fade to black?)
It helps, to think in B-film sci-fi terms of cancer as a popcorn-flavored fright, like mutant frogs or radon-swollen worms, assailants from the underside of night: a flesh-consuming alien from Mars, a black hole in the heavens eating stars.
originally printed in Amelia, Vol. II, No. 2, (c)1985
P.S. My grandmother had a mastectomy that summer, and I wound up needing a biopsy. This sonnet reveals what was on my mind at the time.
--Nancy
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Friday, November 16, 2007 9:43:20 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Wednesday, November 14, 2007
Too Much Money Is a Bad Thing for Poetry?!?
Posted by Robert
"A Windfall Illuminates the Poetry Field, and Its Fights," by Julia M. Klein from The New York Times, reports on the 5-year progress of the Poetry Foundation (once the Modern Poetry Association), publisher of Poetry Magazine, using a $100 million grant from pharmaceutical company heiress Ruth Lilly.
In 2002, there was a lot of shock and envy at such a large grant going to one entity. In 2007, there appears to be a combination of acceptance and snobbery--with some poets applauding the Foundation's work to spread the poetry gospel and other poets feeling the whole thing is dumbing down the institution of poetry.
Regardless of how you feel on the issue, it is an interesting article.
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For my own part, I took issue with a quote attributed to J.D. McClatchy (a poet who I enjoy reading and have always found accessible): "Poetry is supposed to complicate people's lives, not to reassure them, or to be a humorous relaxation or an amusing spot on the radio."
While poetry can complicate people's lives, I think this statement limits the purpose of poetry, which I feel can be summed up in one vulgar word for the academic crowd: Entertainment.
Poetry is meant to entertain. Arguing over whether poetry should be complex and disturbing or light and funny is like arguing over whether all fiction should be romance or mystery. Fiction's strength is its variety of genres and niches; poetry has that same strength in its various forms and audiences.
I've seen some poets argue that metrical poetry is the only way, while other poets push against forms of any kind. I've seen poets say that real poetry should only be concerned with language and structure, while other poets only acknowledge poems with some kind of real meaning at the heart of the poem. All the while, I've thought poets and those who love poetry should embrace the whole durned thing--from the teenage boy writing a poem for his unrequited love to the post-grad scholar constructing an anagrammatic series of sestinas that incorporate mythological interpretations of the meaning of pop culture references in the 1980s (hey, whatever floats yer boat).
Anyway, sorry for the rant, but I just often don't understand why all us poets can't just get along. Commentary | Poetry News | Poets
Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:05:27 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Monday, November 12, 2007
Working Hard or Hardly Working
Posted by Robert
The title of this post is one of my grandfather's favorite questions to ask me whenever I see him. And, for my part, I never know how to answer, because I always feel like both; even when I'm working hard, it often feels like everything around me is hardly working. This contrast in feelings extends to my poetry, too.
Here's a funny little piece from The Onion: "Poet Takes Extra 5 Minutes To Vague Up Poem." (Thanks to Joe Felso's Ruminations blog for leading me to this link.)
There are many ways to interpret this comment on poets and their process (including getting defensive), but one is that sometimes poets (myself included) try to rush a poem along. The "Vague Up" process here seems to be referring to "revision." In this example, the poet only takes 5 minutes to revise the poem and appears to do so directly after finishing the piece.
Perhaps as a result of my age, I can often get caught up in trying to produce poems. And often, I don't have to try: I just naturally always love writing. But, just because I'm working hard at cranking poems out does not mean any of those poems are working. Hardly, in fact.
True, I've got a lot of material to work with, but the hard part of writing is chipping away at those fine details. Great poetry may or may not be a pleasure to write, but it should always be a pleasure to read. And that responsibility falls dead on the shoulders of the poet.
I know I've been working very hard at the creation of my poems. However, I think I need to step back and take more than 5 minutes on how I finish my work so that I can eventually feel like my poems are doing more than "hardly working."
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This poem by Frank O'Hara also looks at the creative and revision process. Not only is it a good read, but it's also instructional: "Why I Am Not a Painter."
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Monday, November 12, 2007 2:52:21 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Friday, November 09, 2007
Suffering for art (NOT) and small encouragements
Posted by Nancy
Back in September, Robert wrote about writing and being sick here. Now it's my turn, after spending three days out of the office with an ongoing upper respiratory infection.
(No, actually, one of those days was because I had an allergic reaction to the Omnicef I was prescribed for my ear infection. Wednesday night I noticed I was developing a lot of discomfort on the right side of my head and throat; up until then, everything had been on the left. Overnight, I kept waking up and thinking, "My throat feels so dry, I can barely swallow." When I got up next morning, I discovered that my throat wasn't dry; it was nearly swollen shut. The base of my tongue was also starting to hurt. I hopped on the Internet and found out that swollen throat and tongue are "serious" side effects of Omnicef that need "immediate medical attention." My doctor called in another prescription, but between all that rigmarole and feeling bad in a completely new way, I just wasn't up to coming in to work, although I was able to complete some important tasks at home. What a bummer of a week, though.)
Robert commented that he finds himself "writing weird, nonsensical poetry" when he's up sick in the middle of the night. He also said, "Writers write--even when they're sick."
Wow, more power to you, Robert. I admire your dedication. I definitely was not in a poetic mood or felt in any way creative. Pain and mucous really kill my muse.
I knew a long time ago I'd never be a great poet once I realized I really didn't want to suffer for my art. (Yeah, that's it--lack of talent had nothing to do with it.) It's not just physical misery that gets in the way. I have a serious clinical depression problem that, fortunately, I'm able to manage with antidepressants most of the time. I don't find anything romantic about the image of the "mad poet" or anything artistically stirring about tales of poets who wrangled with psychological and emotional problems all their lives (and eventually lost out to suicide). Maybe there's a grandeur to all that when you're a young poet who hasn't lived much yet, or a poet trying to write out of an average, everyday life. All I see is anguish, and I have to wonder what the point is if you're in too much pain to enjoy the creative process or to celebrate with even the smallest flame of satisfaction your literary accomplishments.
I don't want to end up with my head in the oven, or locked in a car in the garage with the motor running. (Mediocre poets can meet those ends, too.) I'd like to have a reasonably enjoyable life. If that makes me less of an artist, or no artist at all, so be it. We all make our choices. I've made mine.
In the middle of all the discomfort this week I received an envelope with three certificates from the Ohio Poetry Day contests. I'd won three honorable mentions, which was nice to find out because I'd assumed my results had been a big zilch this year. (I thought I enclosed the SASE for results, but who knows.)
Not that I'm bragging about these small encouragements. The truth is, sending in some last-minute entries to Ohio Poetry Day represents my only poetry submitting activity this year. I guess I'm still capable of putting a few lines together, but I sure don't feel good about myself as a poet these days. Or all that great about my poetry.
Hope this big dose of angst gives you one of those "wow, I'm a lot better than that" feelings. At least my turmoil won't have been for nothing!
Cheers,
Nancy
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Friday, November 09, 2007 9:49:34 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Tuesday, November 06, 2007
Good poets vote!
Posted by Robert
Actually, I'm not sure if there is any truth to that statement. I don't have any official statistics on award winning poets and their voting record. However, I think most good poets are actively engaged in the world around them. And what better way for poets living in the United States to engage in the world around them today than to vote?
That's right. Today is Election Day in the United States. There isn't the glamour of voting for President or even members of Congress, but the local concerns that affect you more directly are still going to be voted on today. So make your voice count and vote today.
And for people who say that it doesn't matter because the things you vote for are going to lose anyway, consider this: There are few things better than knowing you were right when you were in the minority and that you stood up for what you believed even when you were in the minority.
Anyway, I don't care what your political views are. Just get out there and cast your ballot.
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Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:27:16 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Wednesday, October 31, 2007
A Halloween Poem
Posted by Nancy
I love Halloween in a big way, and I don't even mind how gory it's become over time. There's something healthy about confronting mortality, laughing in the face of death and its brutalities, and flirting with some of life's darker mysteries (whether we actually believe in ghosts and spells or not).
The poem below is about an incident that happened to my cousin exactly 40 years ago last week. Eleven years old, he was goofing around on his bicycle, showing off for a girl in his class, when he hit an uneven patch of pavement and shot over the handlebars and landed in a way that caused severe internal injuries.
Things were a little uncertain for my cousin for a few days. They took out his spleen and later had to remove one of his kidneys. He was in the hospital for weeks. I was thirteen that autumn and shaken by the possibility my younger cousin could die. "Haunted" is one way of describing my feelings, which stayed with me over the years. Later, my aunt confided how the accident had haunted her, and the poem tells the story from her viewpoint:

You catapulted toward death over butterfly handlebars, on an afternoon of smoldering leaf piles, cornstalks painted on the bakery windows. We got the news that evening just as a storm arrived to bear you away on blasts that made the trees toss like keening women. The first bolts crackled as your mother headed home from the hospital. Confronting her was the skeleton she'd hung on the front door that afternoon. It grinned with a phantom cackle, flapping its cardboard bones while you lay endangered in intensive care, your pumpkin- round cheeks highly colored, a triangle of flame in each eye.
You survived that night, although you lost the damaged kidney, shrivelling in your recovery like a hollowed gourd. Your mother later said she neither cried nor prayed, but swept the house of those emblems of death and malicious spirit. To this day she has no fondness for the hallowed eve, for the snaggle-toothed deity who stared her down.
(from Clifton Magazine, (C) 1994)
Here's wishing you benign hauntings this Halloween.
--Nancy
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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:02:29 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
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 Thursday, October 25, 2007
The BEST American Poetry 2007
Posted by Robert
Finally getting around to reading The Best American Poetry 2007, edited by Heather McHugh (guest editor) and David Lehman (series editor), and I'm more than half-way through this year's rather slim volume (at least, compared to recent editions).
I'm still trying to make up my mind about where 2007's crop of poems rank against previous years in this series, but one of the great things about this anthology has little to do with the actual poems. What I love about this anthology are the 70+ explanations of the poems by the actual poets. It's really a great learning experience.
For instance, Rae Armantrout writes, "Part of the pleasure of poetry has always been the rather strange pleasure of 'calling one thing by another's name.' That's what metaphor does, after all. 'Scumble' asks about the psychology of this phenomenon. What is the kick in substitution? Is it covertly erotic?"
Julie Carr honestly writes, "The poem 'marriage' has had so many permutations that its source is no longer any particular lived or imagined experience. Its sources are instead its previous selves. The phonic and semantic relationships among the words 'marriage,' 'edge,' 'manna,' and 'mannered' have been, throughout, constant points of interest."
Of his poem "Best Am Po," Mark Halliday writes, "If I'd known that this poem would end up in The Best American Poetry, I would have made it even more ambitious."
How I like to read this anthology, in fact, is to use a small Post-It to bookmark the current poem I'm reading and a small Post-It to bookmark the corresponding poet commentary. That way, I can read the comments on the poem while the poem is still fresh in my mind.
While I'm still making up my mind about this particular volume, one thing is certain: The overall series is very interesting and filled with diversity. Each guest editor seems to take the anthology in a different direction, and that is a great thing.
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For some more on The Best American Poetry 2007:
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Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:24:39 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Thursday, October 18, 2007
Joseph Stalin, the poet?
Posted by Robert
"Could Stalin have been a poet instead of a tyrant?," from Russia Today, is a very interesting piece on how Joseph Stalin went from being a rising poetic star to a Bolshevik leader. Of special interest is how Stalin's poetry may have helped him rise to be the leader of a nation.
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With that story in mind, it is not recommended that you use poetry as a platform for political gain (or to stage robberies, for that matter). Poetry should always be kept separate of any such evil doing.
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Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:15:58 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Wednesday, October 17, 2007
Submissions: E-mail or Traditional Mail?
Posted by Robert
Though I'd been writing poetry very regularly since my sophomore year of high school, I did not start submitting my poems to publications until January of 2006. Being my own harshest critic, I was prepared to get rejected to all the places I submitted, so I set a rule that I would only submit my work via e-mail or online submission forms (as an economic decision). However, I was surprised to find more than 20 of my poems accepted over the first 15 months or so of my submission efforts.
After success via e-mail and online submission forms (and with the ability to afford stamps without sacrificing my son's next haircut appointment), I decided it was time to start submitting to places that only accept submissions the traditional route. That's what I'm currently in the process of doing, and I'm wondering if that is a good or bad thing.
I wonder: Am I somehow just following the crowd by submitting by post? Am I doing it just to have a cool credit? Should I just be trying to get my material published as fast as possible by whoever "understands" what I'm getting at?
By the way, I don't have any answers to those questions yet. Just thinking out loud.
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As far as the respectability factor, Virginia Quarterly Review and The Pedestal Magazine--both very respectable publications--only accept submissions online. The New Yorker and Ploughshares accept submissions online and through the post. So there shouldn't be any kind of taboo on online submissions--it all comes down to what works best for the editors.
Yet, I've noticed that I submit by traditional mail if I'm given the option of either/or, because I figure traditional mail at least forces the editors to open the envelope. Online submissions are so easy to "accidentally" delete or forget.
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I submit both ways, but I'm wondering if one is better than the other. Or is a mix-and-match approach the best way to submit. Commentary | Personal Updates | Poetry Publishing
Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:21:00 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Tuesday, October 16, 2007
Graphic poems (i.e., poems as comics)
Posted by Nancy
Recently, in a bit of nostalgic self-indulgence, I bought a lot of seven 1966 Treasure Chest magazines off eBay. Treasure Chest, offered by subscription to Catholic school kids, was a hybrid publication combining comic book and general interest magazine.*
I wasn't much of a comic book reader, but I did enjoy Treasure Chest, especially the historical features. In the lot I purchased, there's the edition that contained part two of the life of educational pioneer Maria Montessori. I'd remembered many of those images through the years; and, by association, had recalled many details of Montessori's life (or as many as can be communicated through a two-part comic serial). Even without the visual prompting of having old issues in hand, I vividly remember scenes from such stories as the life of Father Isaac Jogues (with his maimed hands) and the tale (possibly apocryphal) of a Union Soldier in the Civil War who woke up in a hospital on Christmas morning to find his childhood crazy quilt on his bed.
Because of how I experienced the power of words melding with graphic images, I'm very interested in the "The Poem as Comic Strip" feature on The Poetry Foundation's website. I'm looking forward to seeing more poems in graphic form over time; right now there are five (numbers one through four can be accessed through the set of links on the right of the screen). I haven't gotten into graphic novels yet, but I should. I think I'd really enjoy them.
I've always been a fan of Edward Lear's limericks with their surreal accompanying line drawings. It would be interesting to see what modern poets who can also draw might come up with if they could present their own poems as comics. (I don't draw, but I play around with collage and ATCs [artist trading cards]. I've often thought of collaging one of my poems, or doing an "altered chapbook." The interplay of the literary and the visual is intriguing.)
--Nancy
*The Authentic History Center offers scans of the 1961 Treasure Chest series, "This Godless Communism." Something changed drastically by 1965, when I started subscribing, because I don't remember anything that overtly propagandistic. Sure, the adventure stories usually featured good Catholic heroes, but the text and drawings weren't preachy and didn't directly tout the Catholicism of the characters. And I don't remember ever reading about communism, or even kid-level discussions of Vietnam.
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Tuesday, October 16, 2007 7:41:27 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Monday, October 08, 2007
Good laugh on a Monday morning...
Posted by Nancy
Take a look at The Futility Review. If you don't get a hoot out of this, you haven't been submitted submitting poetry often or long enough, or you haven't read many submission guidelines. (Along about March, when I'm getting twitchy from proofing too many listings or writing up new ones, all submission guidelines start looking like this to me.)
Thanks to C. Dale Young at Avoiding the Muse, where I first read about this.
--Nancy Commentary | General
Monday, October 08, 2007 3:22:18 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Wednesday, October 03, 2007
Does Self-Publishing Wreck Poetry Careers?
Posted by Robert
Received this question via e-mail from poet Liesl Garner:
"Last year I performed a poetry show at our local Fringe Festival. I got wonderful reviews, and I am performing a Repeat Performance in October of this year. The Fringe Festival is every Spring, and I plan to participate each year. After my first show, I was asked if I had my poetry printed in a chapbook for sale. I didn't, but for the Repeat Performance I want to have that available for audience members. I'm actually thinking of doing a chapbook for each year's performance. Is it bad for my hopes and dreams of someday becoming a published poet to be doing my own publishing of chapbooks?
"Currently, I just don't have the time to be submitting with the numbers I would have to in order to get noticed by a publisher. However, on my local scene, I have a large fan base that wants to see my work in print.
"Thanks, Liesl Garner"
Before I get into my ramble, you should probably read Nancy's Published Is Published post about what self-publishing will do to those poems that are self-published in the eyes of editors. Then, come back here to read what I have to say.
(Tapping on desk as Liesl reads Nancy's post. Ba-ba-ba. Humming to self.)
Back?
Okay then.
So you now know that self-publishing any of your poems will have editors considering those specific poems already published, right? That doesn't mean your career is over, it just means these specific poems are now only available as reprints. This fact can hurt when submitting to poetry journals and magazines or even chapbook contests. But the publication of some of your poems does not affect what you do with other poems that are not self-published.
If you decide that for the current crop of poems you wish to self-publish that it is okay if they risk being only available in your self-published chapbook format, then you should go for it. More and more poets are doing this. However, if you wish to see any of these specific poems in some journal or future chapbook competition winning collection, you may not want to include in your self-publishing effort.
As far as actually self-publishing, I advise you to either go with a local printer that you can work with directly--or there are some online POD companies that allow you to print and publish only one book at a time, which dramatically lowers the investment you have to make in your self-publishing venture. I'm sure some very nice poets (hint, hint) could even give suggestions in the blog comments below. Even if not, that's why God created Google; just type "POD Publishers" into Google, and you will receive plenty of online resources of how and who to proceed with.
On another note, there's no shame in self-publishing. Through the ages, poets have been especially prone to self-publication. And that trend only seems to be expanding even more with online and POD technologies now available to poets.
Just remember: Self-publishing does equal publishing. So those specific poems that are self-published could pay the price with publishers in the short term. Of course, most poets would agree that you're not risking much financially by self-publishing over traditional publication. For many, the main goal is to just reach an engaged audience.
Best,
Robert
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Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:57:40 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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Poetry Internationale!?!
Posted by Robert
Thanks to Rus Bowden for finding the following threads discussing whether American poetry shouldn't be internationalized:
From the Virginia Quarterly Review: http://www.vqronline.org/blog/2007/09/20/muldoon-to-take-over-as-new-yorker-poetry-editor
From the Chronicle of Higher Education: http://chronicle.com/blogs/footnoted/index.php?id=636
From Books, Inq. blog: http://booksinq.blogspot.com/2007/09/at-least-its-not-outsourcing.html
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Now, my take? Earlier this year, I was published in an Australian lit journal. Within the past week, I was asked if I was originally British, because of my writing style and subjects. However, I've spent my entire life in Southwest Ohio orbiting between Cincinnati and Dayton.
If I consider myself anything (geographically speaking), it is a Southwest Ohio poet (not an American or International poet). I write about things important to me in this quadrant of this state (and, of course, other places that I happen to visit).
Actually, I think this is a loaded topic. Poets need to write what they know. Again and again, I can see a dramatic improvement in the quality of other poets (myself included) when they quit trying to make things up in their poetry and instead just get real (this holds true regardless of style or structure).
So my thought process leads me to think that poets shouldn't be concerned with whether poetry is internationalized or regionalized. That's something for anthology editors and anthropologists and politicians to fiddle over. Poets should focus on writing what is true and letting everyone else debate the meanings.
I'd love to hear if any of my readers have thoughts on this subject. Commentary | Poetry Publishing
Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:50:13 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Friday, September 28, 2007
Should Poets And Politics Mix, Part Two
Posted by Robert
If you're interested in part one, click here.
While "Professor publishes April 16 poem," by Liza Roesch for the Collegiate Times, might sound mundane enough, it actually explores the idea of whether poetry and politics (and current events, for that matter) should mix.
The article is about Bob Hicok and a poem he published in the September/October issue of American Poetry Review called "So I know." It is a confessional poem from Hicok about his guilt for not doing more to prevent the April 16, 2007, Virginia Tech shootings brought about by one of his former students, Seung-Hui Cho.
Click here to read Hicok's poem "So I know."
In it, Hicok addresses why he's written and attempted to publish the poem: "too soon/people will say, so what. This is what I do."
And Hicok definitely has a point.
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Friday, September 28, 2007 5:53:54 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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Translating Poetry: Is it worth it?
Posted by Robert
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Friday, September 28, 2007 3:22:36 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Monday, September 24, 2007
Nobody Ever Buys Poetry--Ever
Posted by Robert
Okay, so maybe that's not technically correct. For instance, I buy new poetry collections about once a week. And I know poets who purchase collections of poetry on a regular basis. People do buy poetry, but it's not easy finding a good selection of poetry to buy.
There's a chicken and egg problem with poetry collections in the marketplace. Booksellers don't stock too much poetry, because poetry doesn't sell well. Potential poetry buyers don't buy poetry, because there's not a good selection (or sometimes, in my personal experience, I've had trouble even finding a poetry section in bookstores).
Would poetry sell better if it had more shelf space? I'm not sure we'll ever know, because it doesn't make good business sense for bookstores to take a chance on poetry. I don't agree with it, but that's how the bottom line works.
"Local poetry publisher BOA rises to national status," by Matthew Daneman for Rochester Democrat and Chronicle, profiles prominent poetry publisher BOA. Of particular interest, BOA estimates 43% of its revenue comes from book sales and 37% from grants and donations--illustrating just how hard it is to sell poetry.
Despite this despicable state of the poetry publishing industry, I feel very certain that poetry will never die. Readers do go out of their way to find poetry in the nooks and crannies of bookstores and flea markets and Web sites and anywhere they can find it, because those who read poetry are passionate about poetry.
So anyway, I just sometimes get discouraged about the lack of shelf space devoted to poetry. I'm sure other poets do too. However, I just want to remind everyone (myself included) that we don't write poetry for the money or fame; we write poetry, because we can't stop ourselves. What's wrong with us anyway? (Just kidding, I think.)
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Monday, September 24, 2007 6:55:20 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Thursday, September 13, 2007
It's that time of the year again
Posted by Robert
As a runner, I love this time of the year. The temperatures are starting to cool off. The air always seems a little fresher. (Is it possible to have a fresh smog alert?) And soon, the foliage will be turning brilliant colors to contrast with the usual bright blue autumn sky.
As a poet, I love this time of the year for a different reason: This is when the university-run literary journals typically open up their submission reading periods. While reading periods change from journal to journal, most open up around the beginning of September and run through the end of April.
So the time is perfect for both running and submitting here in Southwest Ohio. I've got a new pair of running shoes and a copy of 2008 Poet's Market (edited by my blogging cohort, Nancy Breen). I love this time of year!
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Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:48:41 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Wednesday, September 12, 2007
Following up on Haiku on September 11
Posted by Robert
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Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:54:55 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Tuesday, September 11, 2007
Haiku on September 11
Posted by Nancy
I read Robert's posts about haiku here and here, as well as Michael Dylan Welch's comments, with great interest. I've tried haiku in the past, knew I failed, and have also felt "fearful" about trying again. I'm intrigued by everything that goes into writing a true haiku, including saying more with less.
In e-mailing back and forth about an article for the 2009 Poet's Market, Michael and I discussed this fear a bit. I promised Michael I would seriously attempt haiku and post a few here at Poetic Asides.
I realized there was no more challenging subject about which to say more with less than the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. I experienced September 11, 2001 in a very peripheral way--literally. That morning my mother and I were in Gettysburg, having spent the night en route to a few days in Amish country. We were actually blissfully unaware of the attacks as we searched for Marianne Moore's grave in Evergreen Cemetery and contemplated the beautiful, peaceful scene in the Valley of Death from Little Round Top.
It wasn't until we stopped at an antique mall halfway to York that we first heard what had happened. In shock, we immediately started back to Ohio. With Washington so close to the south, there was a special urgency in the radio reports we were listening to. In one of the rest stations on the Pennsylvania Turnpike, we overheard plenty of discussion of the New York part of the tragedy, as people wandered with cell phones to their ears, absorbed in agitated conversations, their eyes wide with fear and confusion.
And, as we sped through Somerset County within miles of Shanksville, we passed emergency equipment heading east, lights flashing, although Flight 93 had gone down hours before.
In 2002, on our way home from the Dodge Poetry Festival, we made a detour off the turnpike to visit the Flight 93 memorial. It was only a year and week later; a mood of requiem was still strong--at the festival, in the small towns of New Jersey, and in Pennsylvania.
It's definitely a challenge to distill all that into captured moments; to forego the emotions, the intensity of the memories, the politics, the impulse to comment at length and memorialize. But I said I'd try, so here they are--my haiku for September 11 (attempted):
bone-white stones
the poet's grave eludes us
crow and dried roses
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clear September day
a blue sky to remember
leaves papers ash drift
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soft yellow showers
faint whiffs of distant smoke
crickets on stone walls
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stillness on Round Top
in the cannon's muzzle
a spider's web
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cows and goldenrod
a siren on the turnpike
milking time is soon
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field in late summer
tributes on a chain-link fence
grass conceals the scars
--Nancy
P.S. Here's a moving piece about an artist's musical response to 9/11. Commentary | Poetic Forms
Tuesday, September 11, 2007 3:57:01 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Thursday, September 06, 2007
My Submission Process
Posted by Robert
Today, I received a nice rejection on some poems I submitted to Thieves Jargon. I also sent out a group of poems to Burnside Review. Since I went through the process of marking a submission and rejection on the same day, I got to thinking about how I submit poems, including how I keep everything organized. It's extremely lo-tech.
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This is how I organize my poems: I copy them by hand into those black & white marble composition notebooks. I number each page to help with referencing where each poem is.
I reserve around 10 pages of room at the end of each notebook to make submission notes for the entire book. Basically, I make four columns: Date of submission; where the submission went (for instance, Burnside Review today); which poems (I include poem titles and page number in the composition notebook); and the result (whether poems were accepted or rejected and the date of response).
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When I make a submission of poems, I mark the columns with the appropriate information in the back. But to ensure that I don't accidentally send the same poem out to several publications, I also create columns beside each poem that I cross-reference with the information in the back: Name of publication; date of submission; date of acceptance; and date of rejection.
If a poem has no response or has been accepted, then I know not to submit it elsewhere. If a poem's current status is rejected, then I know it's available to submit. If it's been rejected several times, I know there's a possibility it should be revised or abandoned.
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So, that's how I do it. Submitting multiple poems to multiple publications can be confusing. However, with this system, I've had no problems keeping on top of where my poems are. Advice | Commentary | Personal Updates | Poetry Publishing
Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:54:08 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Wednesday, September 05, 2007
Should Poets and Politics Mix?
Posted by Robert
"Stranded: Poet Mark Strand Preaches Political Indifference at UCI," by Victor D. Infante from About.com (reprinted from The Orange County Weekly), examines a comment made by Strand that poets should rise above politics in their poetry, as well as stating that rap and poetry share no connection.
Since I was not there to see the context of his answer, I cannot speak to Strand's specific quotes. However, I think it's difficult to separate poetry from music--whether verse/chorus/verse or rap songs. Slam poetry is definitely a poetic form and part of the poetry world, and there are many great slam poems that sound like rap without the "fat" beats. And many song lyrics read as free verse and/or metered poetry if you remove the accompanying music.
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Also, I'm conflicted about the politics and poetry not mixing idea. This is very dangerous--on both sides of the trenches.
On one side, poetry that is all politics can be more than a little preachy, which can alienate many readers--much like a door-to-door salesperson or that crazy guy who stands on soapboxes all day warning of the end of the world. You know, sometimes the message can kill the poem's effectiveness as a poem.
On the other side, poets who don't report the world as they see it do a disservice to their time and place, as well as the readers of their specific time and place. Avoiding politics can cause readers to feel displaced from the writing of the poet. Not every poem has to be timeless, after all. Neruda understood this when he tackled both the timely (politics) and timeless (love) topics.
And really the best poetry that I read tries to get at both the timely and timeless at the same time. It's that juxtaposition that really gets me jazzed up.
Of course, I'd love to hear others thoughts on this as well.
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(Also, apologies to Mark Strand for having this particular article singled out. I really don't know in what context he made various comments--so don't let this post affect your opinion of him. However, this article did get me thinking about some important issues we all face as poets. Strand is a great poet, and I suggest you read plenty of his work if you haven't already.)
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Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:16:12 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Thursday, August 30, 2007
Bookstores, travel, and more
Posted by Robert
"Lyrical days on isle of poetry," by Neil Sowerby for Manchester Evening News, is more a travel than poetry piece. But it was a fun read about Deia, where poet and author of I, Claudius Robert Graves was buried.
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"Slovenian poetry as a relic of the past?" from CourierInternational.com. Peter Koslek says, "If you look in bookstores in Paris, London or Vienna, you'll have difficulty finding a shelf dedicated to poetry. ... Here in Slovenia things are different: we have metres of shelves full of poetry in our bookstores, located just as prominently as those for other types of literature."
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Following up on that thought, I can add that it is often very difficult to find the "Poetry Section" in U.S. bookstores as well. Usually, that "section" consists of a few shelves of anthologies and dead poets. Even at my favorite bookstores, I have trouble finding some of my favorites like Louise Gluck and Bob Hicock.
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In other news, I submitted some poetry to Thieves Jargon yesterday. They apparently plan on re-upping their operations in September.
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Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:57:34 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Monday, August 20, 2007
Epitaphs and food poisoning...
Posted by Nancy
Robert's post on epitaphs was quite timely for me, since I felt like I was at death's door most of the weekend. The doctor confirmed yesterday I had probably been debilitated by a food-born illness, confirming what I suspected from the minute the abdominal pains set in. I'm on two separate antibiotics now, which I'm sure are helping, but I think it will be a couple of days before I'm feeling like my old self. I'm still not sure of the actual source of the contamination or where I consumed it, which is the unnerving aspect of the whole gory incident.
I couldn't resist imagining what my family might have put on my tombstone had I succumbed to this vile ailment. Perhaps:
She died of an infected tummy.
(But at least the meal was yummy!)
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Done in by a tainted dish,
her final words: "Don't eat the fish!"
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"Mmmm!" she said, and cleaned her plate,
whereby she met an awful fate.
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She's passed on to a higher plane
where there's no danger of ptomaine.
Those are nice and economical (in more ways than one--epitaphs ain't cheap). However, I'm sure my loved ones would spring for something with a little more "substance":
Beloved food,
her fickle friend,
destroyed poor Nancy
in the end.
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Nancy lies beneath the sod,
thus endeth her ordeal--
brought down by hands that weren't washed
before they fixed her meal.
Actually, I intend to be cremated, so the issue of what goes on my tombstone is moot. However, I noticed there's a growing trend toward cremation jewelry. Cool, maybe swag bags with a pendant for each person who attends my wake (with live music, ceili dancing, and flowing Guinness, please note)…
--Nancy
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Monday, August 20, 2007 7:49:49 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Tuesday, August 14, 2007
All aboard for poetry!
Posted by Robert
"'Worst' rail firm goes from bad to verse," by Alan Hamilton from The Times, wins best title for the day. As part of this article on First Great Western hiring Cornish poet Sally Crabtree to perform at selected stations, there is an offer for poets to e-mail poems to The Times about trains and railways.
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Speaking of trains, I always think of Harry Potter and the Hogwarts Express at the mere mention. Over this past weekend, I finished reading Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, and I was quite blown away by just how good J.K. Rowling's final Harry Potter tale finished. There's a reason the book has such tremendous sales. (And now I'm sad that the adventure is over.)
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Tuesday, August 14, 2007 2:09:28 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Monday, August 13, 2007
Taslima Nasreen: Poetry as an act of courage
Posted by Nancy
The last session I was able to attend at last fall's biennial Geraldine R. Dodge Poetry Festival before starting the drive back to Ohio was "Poetry and the Lives of Women." Poets onstage in that intimate tent on a crisp fall morning were Toi Derricotte, Linda Pastan, Anne Waldman, and Taslima Nasreen.
I wasn't aware of Nasreen, her history, or her work before this panel, and I was awestruck at the courage and defiance this unassuming woman seated before me had shown in speaking out through her writing. The participants discussed many issues related to women and poetry, but at times the American poets seemed apologetic discussing their own personal and cultural hurdles as artists. Not that sexism, racism, or any personal challenge of any poet (of either sex) is negated by another poet's persecution. However, in the presence of Nasreen--exiled, with a price on her head--it was difficult for poets and audience members not to say, "Of course, what I went through doesn't even begin to compare, but…"
Last Thursday, Taslima Nasreen was attacked at a public appearance in Hyderabad, India (hat tip to The Poetry Hut for the information--and YouTube provides several videos of the disturbance). What's more, Nasreen was booked by Hyderabad police "for promoting enmity between different groups on grounds of religion, race, language--a charge that can get her two years in prison, if proven."
Take some time to learn more about Taslima Nasreen and to read her poetry; and consider how intensely important poetry can be.
--Nancy
P.S. If you weren't there, or simply want to relive the moment if you were lucky enough to be in the audience at the festival's Friday afternoon "poetry sampler," you can watch a video clip of Taha Muhammed Ali reading his poem "Revenge" thanks to the folks at Dodge.
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Monday, August 13, 2007 4:42:38 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Wednesday, August 08, 2007
Haiku Revisited
Posted by Robert
Michael Dylan Welch, who wrote on haiku for the 2005 Poet's Market, stopped by and offered some great advice in the comments to my "Haiku: Easy or Hard?" post from earlier this week. While it's probably best to read the comments first-hand, I figured I'd make it easy on people since the advice is very useful.
Some highlights:
- "My sense of things is that practically no current literary haiku writers believe the 5-7-5 pattern of syllables is applicable in English (in Japanese they count sounds, not syllables, which is why a one-syllable word like 'scarf,' in English, is counted as FOUR sounds when said in Japan, something like 'su-ka-ar-fu'), so I'm not sure I'd call 5-7-5 a 'traditional' viewpoint in English. More like a traditional misunderstanding."
- "Rather, what matters most in the tradition of haiku is kigo (season word) and kireji (cutting word), as well as objective sensory imagery (thus one wouldn't say that rain 'stampedes' the mud, because, as interesting as that is, it shows your interpretation and lacks the objectivity that lets readers have their own reaction to a carefully crafted image)."
- "At any rate, I always like to quote philosopher Roland Barthes on haiku. He said that 'The haiku has this rather fantasmagorical property: that we always suppose we ourselves can write such things easily.' Paradoxically, haiku is both easy and hard."
Welch also provided to links to check out:
- His essay "Becoming a Haiku Poet" at http://www.haikuworld.org/begin/mdwelch.apr2003.html
- Keiko Imaoka's essay "Forms in English Haiku" at http://asgp.org/agd-poems/keiko-essay.html
I would like to thank Welch, who is an expert in his field, for sharing so much great information with everyone. This is what having a community of poets is all about as far as I'm concerned. Advice | Commentary | Poetic Forms | Poetry Craft Tips | Poets
Wednesday, August 08, 2007 6:19:19 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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A Post Strophe
Posted by Robert
"Pissy About Apostrophes," by Steven Huff on Random Lunatic News, goes into a long rant about his "substandard education in the mechanics, the nuts and bolts of good writing." As one might imagine from the title, this post is both amusing and helpful.
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Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:41:24 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Thursday, August 02, 2007
Thinking about bridges...
Posted by Nancy
Yesterday Robert linked to a Washington Post story about "the world's worst poet," William McGonagall of Scotland. The article quoted McGonagall's "The Tay Bridge Disaster," which is too painfully bad to repeat here in light of what happened in Minneapolis (the catastrophe struck long after the McGonagall story had appeared).
It's natural for a poet, or any writer, to react to or want to commemorate a tragedy through their written words. Some poets are up to the task. Many are not. I usually find myself in the latter category.
My phobias don't include crumbling bridges, but I do sometimes think about collapses--especially when crossing a massive, highly traveled span like the double-decker Brent Spence Bridge here in Cincinnati. I blame the apprehension on two bridge disasters that have impacted me deeply.
The Silver Bridge between Point Pleasant, West Virginia, and Gallipolis, Ohio, went down on a Friday evening a week before Christmas, 1967--the year I was thirteen. Even at a much younger age I was easily haunted by tragedies, but this one hit me especially hard. Perhaps it was because it was so easy to imagine; we were always driving over one bridge or another to and from Northern Kentucky. The personal details of the Silver Bridge disaster layered associations (and horror): Some of the people on the bridge were driving home from work. Some were going Christmas shopping. Grandparents died together. A mother went down with her two young daughters, as did a married couple expecting their first child in January. Such stories made me heartsick, and still do.
Because the Silver Bridge crashed into the Ohio River, there was eventually speculation that some of the victims not yet recovered would float downriver to our area. That reinforced the connection to an event in a place I'd never been, and I stared at the Ohio whenever we crossed in a way I never had before.
It was decades before I knew about The Mothman (book, movie, or cult). As creepy as the stories are, I didn't need a mutant with moth wings and bulging eyes to scare me. Real life was frightening enough.
The second time the aerial shot of a collapsed bridge made my heart stop was when I was flying home from Europe in 1989. I was watching the CNN weekly recap when the image of a broken bridge came up and I heard the words "Miamitown, Ohio." My mother, stepfather, and sister lived a couple of miles up the pike from Miamitown and used that bridge daily. The story gave few details and didn't name any of the fatalities. Panic threw my imagination into overdrive as I pictured every possible scenario and wondered if any of my loved ones were gone and whether some weird decision had been made not to contact me and ruin the last of my trip to Europe.
To my relief, my mother and sister were waiting at the airport, and they confirmed that everyone was safe. It had been too close for comfort, though. My sister had crossed the bridge on her way home from work, just minutes before it fell into the Great Miami River. She was only minutes from home, but news of the collapse broke before she arrived, and there were some anxious minutes (and phone calls) for the family before she drove up the driveway.
I never tried to write about the Silver Bridge disaster. I couldn't bring myself to make someone else's sorrow my own. I did attempt a poem about the Miamitown collapse, but it was awful and I gave up trying to make it readable. One "The Tay Bridge Disaster" is more than enough.
--Nancy
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Thursday, August 02, 2007 9:28:38 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Monday, July 23, 2007
How Thunder Gets Stolen
Posted by Nancy
I came across this interesting post by Pamela Redmond Satran (hat tip to The Poetry Foundation's Dispatches: News feature online) about "Maya Angelou's Best Poem Ever"--which was actually written by Satran as a list column for Glamour in 1997.
Satran's experiences, including having the "poem" produced as a book and poster for sale by third parties without credit to her, sound like the kind of worst case scenario nightmare beginning poets envision when they contact me about copyright, publishing rights, having work stolen, etc. If anything, Satran's list proves that rights and original source of publication don't have much impact. If your work isn't safe from being stolen, borrowed, or misidentified when it's been published in something as high profile and commercial as Glamour, you're probably really up the creek when you publish in small journals or post your poems online.
Note that I definitely am NOT saying you shouldn't publish in small journals or post your poems online. My caveat is more about not wasting too much energy worrying about someone stealing your work, a favorite obsession of beginning and unpublished poets (and possibly some experienced ones, too, if they were honest about it). Deal with it if and when it happens, but don't inhibit yourself with too much fretting about it.
There are a lot of issues associated with Satran's incident that are prime discussion material: intellectual property rights (no matter which side of the fence you're on about that), the viral nature of e-mails and the Internet, whether the "fame" of the work should be weighed against the notoriety the original author is cheated out of. I certainly sympathize with Satran--I guess I'm one of those egotists who wants my name associated with something I wrote, if it originally appeared with a byline. But it also steams me that when something gets passed on and on as a "poem," so often it turns out not to be a poem at all--while there are so many great poems, old and new, that do deserve to go viral. (As Satran says regarding her frustrations in trying to regain credit for the piece, "People believing that's Angelou's best poem ever, I figured, is justice enough.")
Pamela Redmond Satran's website has more information about the author and her work--beyond "Maya Angelou's Best Poem Ever."
--Nancy
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Monday, July 23, 2007 8:02:47 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Friday, July 20, 2007
Okay, Harry Potter, Why Not
Posted by Nancy
I had a good time reading this post and (especially) the related comments at The Atlantic Online about who does and doesn't read Harry Potter. I don't like popcorn that much, but it made me want to settle in with a big bowl and watch the fireworks.
What struck me about the back-and-forth--not to mention the vitriol--in the comments is how much it reminds me of the discussions (read: arguments) poets get into about their preferred forms and schools. There are also the hot button topics: Are workshops just poet mills? Is "big poetry" out to squash the DIY publishing movement? [Insert your own pet topic here.]
What I never get about these discussions (Harry Potter or poetry) is why attack mode goes into overdrive to such an extreme. If you like a certain kind of poetry, can't you just enjoy and appreciate it without maintaining that everyone who doesn't like it is an idiot? Can't you rally around a certain school or style without declaring that everything else is inferior--or worse, doesn't qualify as poetry at all?
No wonder it's so hard to attract readers to poetry. Once they sense that one way or another they're going to get dragged into an intellectual throw-down ("Ewww, you read that guy?" "Oh, please--poetry that doesn't rhyme is just crap!"), they run for the hills.
By the way, since I don't care whether I read Harry Potter--including why or why not--I can't imagine anyone else does, either.
--Nancy Commentary
Friday, July 20, 2007 4:13:27 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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 Thursday, July 19, 2007
The Importance of Setting Poetry Goals
Posted by Robert
This is probably a long overdue follow-up to Nancy's "Published is Published" post from 6/27/07, but late is better than never, right?
The whole issue of whether it's right or wrong for editors to consider poems posted on a blog or forum as published shouldn't be an issue. Editors have their personal opinions on the issue and will stick by them. What's more important is for poets to undertand what they want to achieve with their poetry and set forth on a course that will get them from point A to point B.
For instance, if you decide that your main goal as a poet is to just share your poems freely with as many people as will read them, then you'll want to get a blog, join forums, go crazy on social networking sites and whatever else you can do to spread your poetic gospel. If that's what you want, then good for you; the whole published is published debate doesn't have an effect on how you act online.
If you decide you want to get published in literary journals and print publications, then you may need to tread more lightly and consider how and where you post drafts of your poems. Because the editors of such publications often do care whether your poems have appeared online or print previously. Whether you agree with this or not, that's just how it is.
On the other hand, if your goal is to make millions of dollars writing poetry and use it as a platform to launch your own rock band--like Robert Lee Brewer & the Poets of Discontent--then you just might need to be pinched, because you're obviously dreaming. Poets don't make much money off publishing poetry, no matter where they're published.
So here's the bottom line: Consider what you want to accomplish as a poet. Then, make sure your online and print habits align with your long-term goals.
If you haven't already, you can check out Nancy's "Published is Published" post here.
Best,
Robert Advice | Commentary | Poetry Publishing
Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:28:25 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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County Fairs and Poetry
Posted by Nancy
Last night I went to the Warren Co. Fair here in southwestern Ohio with my mother to check on her entries in quilting and sewing. She won a bunch of ribbons of all colors (yay, Mom!), but while we were searching through the rows of craft entries, I noticed a couple of examples of poetry on display. They have a category for Creative Writing at the county fair--in the craft section, along with the ceramics and decorative painting and Christmas wreaths.
I'm still not sure how I feel about this. I'm all for acknowledging writing, especially poetry, in any way possible. And I love the idea of poetry being so mainstream that it's included in the competitions at the county fair. But as a craft entry?
And it was impossible to read any of the entries without a telescope, so the display wasn't attracting readers who could sample the work in the way that, say, quilt enthusiasts could study the fabric selections and stitching expertise of the quilt entries.
And who judged the creative writing? The same person who judged the mosaic picture frames and nature dioramas made out of twigs and mud?
Obviously I'm making too much out of one category with a handful of entries at a single county fair. I keep thinking, though, of the writers who entered. Do they really want to write, or was a poem something to throw in because the category exists? If the fair had a real writing competition, or a contest dedicated only to poetry, and made sure people know about it, how many more entries would they have had? (I'm not talking slam here, with poets reading on a mobile stage as gunning ride engines drown them out and impassive fairgoers stroll by. I'm referring to a real competition, where a knowledgeable judge assesses the entries and the winning poets get to read at an event that's on the official fair schedule, preferably in a more sheltered venue, such as whatever hall or tent the 4-H Club uses for project interviews.)
Speaking of 4-H, I've noted over the years that Creative Writing is now a regular 4-H project category along with sewing and woodworking. Again, someone viewing the entries doesn't get to read the writing, which which sits on remote exhibit shelves. Maybe someday (or maybe it's already happening in some 4-H clubs) the writing project will include DIY publishing, wherein the 4-H members put together and publish a chapbook of their writing, maybe even offered for sale at the fair to support the club (the way granges offer cookbooks for sale). That would certainly be taking poetry directly to the masses. Whether the masses would respond is another matter.
--Nancy
Note: If you think 4-H is all raising livestock and sewing projects, take a look at the national 4-H site. Talk about building a community. And who knew that 4-H members are now encouraged to blog?
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Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:31:05 PM (GMT Daylight Time, UTC+01:00)
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