# Monday, December 01, 2008
November PAD Chapbook Challenge: Next Steps
Posted by Robert

Okay, it's officially December, which means November 2008 is a thing of the past. Meaning hooray! We've completed (or nearly completed) the November PAD Chapbook Challenge!

Sooooooooooo, now what? (Twiddling thumbs.)

Well, now, it's time to put that chapbook together. Do you remember what other poets said made a great chapbook on October 30? (If not, click here.) Use that information--as well as your own gut feeling--to put together a 10- to 20- page chapbook (single-spaced) of material you wrote during November for the challenge.

Here's what I want from you:

* Cover page with your name, e-mail address, physical address, manuscript title, theme
* Table of Contents (or TOC) page that lists the poem titles
* 10-20 pages of poems (not including the Cover and TOC pages)
* Submit via e-mail to robert.brewer@fwmedia.com with a subject line that reads: November PAD Chapbook Submission
* Submit as either a .txt or .doc (NOT .docx) attachment
* Submissions must be received by midnight EST on January 5 to be eligible

Who can compete?

Anyone who claims to have participated in the November PAD Chapbook Challenge, whether you posted your poems on the blog or not. I'm going to use the honor system here, but I know that many poets write poems from the Poetic Asides prompts who don't post to the blog--so I want to keep this open to as many people who follow along as possible.

What if a poem is longer than one page?

No problem. That's why I'm asking for 10-20 pages of poems, instead of 10-20 poems. It's possible, though not likely, that you could submit an entire chapbook manuscript that consists of one long poem that runs 10-20 pages in length.

Can I include illustrations with my submission?

No. Just words please.

Can poems be revised?

Yes! In fact, I encourage poets to use December as a month to revise, organize, and even fill in any gaps that will help put your collection over the top. (And remember: Longer does NOT always mean better. A 10-page collection that is super tight will most likely look better to Tammy and I than a 20-page collection that is uneven in spots.)

Who judges the competition?

The competition will be judged by my wife (and published poet) Tammy and myself. If you're into Googling your judges, you can find samples of my poems under Robert Lee Brewer and samples of Tammy's poems under Tammy Trendle. However, it should be noted that we both are well-read and enjoy poetry from several different schools--so you really shouldn't try to write to our styles as much as writing to your own style.

What does the winner receive?

Well, at the moment, I'm only going to promise bragging rights. But there's always the possibility that if an amazing manuscript comes through (and I'm able to find the time) that I'll work to get it published, either through myself or trying to get another publisher on board. However, I think bragging rights should be a pretty big incentive, considering how many people visit Poetic Asides every day. Plus, I'll interview the winner for the blog, which will help bring the winner fortune and glory.

When is the winner announced?

February 2, 2009 is the target date. If that changes, there will be an announcement on the blog.

Any other questions can be asked in the comments below this post, and I'll try to answer as best I can.

 


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Monday, December 01, 2008 5:54:41 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)  #  Comments [22] 
Monday, December 01, 2008 7:22:14 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Wow, Robert--what are you doing up at this hour? It is a bit past 8 here in Germany, so it is only 2 AM for you. You're working too hard, get some shut-eye!

Thanks for the specifics. I was a bit worried since I didn't post all of my poems and I only haven't completed all 30 days yet (about 23 so far and I've been working on two chapbooks--the one with poems I posted and another).

I think there were some really great poems listed and have my favorites for the winner, but maybe there is someone out there who hadn't posted their work and will take us all by surprise.

It's been fun. Thanks again for the great prompts. It really helps to motivate the muse.

Linda
linda
Monday, December 01, 2008 12:32:07 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Robert, thanks once again for a heck of a ride and all your hard work. I think November even surpassed April in terms of the quality of the poetry that was posted. We really seemed to have more "serious" poets participating this time, people who truly care about their craft. By the way, a friend of mine runs a small chapbook press, and he may be interested in an arrangment to publish the winning maunscript. E-mail me if you want more details.
Bruce Niedt
Monday, December 01, 2008 2:19:08 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Just want to say again Robert, thanks so much for coordinating this effort! It's been a lot of fun -- and a lot of work -- but so enjoyable and motivating! I'm new to the whole online forum experience, and this has really been amazing. Such a wide range of topics and so many talented folks participating. (I wouldn't want to be the one to have to choose!)

Thanks to everyone who shared their work. It's really been a blast, and happy holidays everyone! :-)
PSC in CT
Monday, December 01, 2008 2:19:59 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Robert--again, thanks. I jsut finished reading all yesterdays posts--lots more since I signed off last night. It's so interesting how geographically diverse we are.
See you all Wednesdays.
Penny Henderson
Monday, December 01, 2008 2:30:51 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Robert,
This has been such a good exercise for me and my learning to write poetry. When I started this new venture in January I imagined I would put a small booklet together by December. Thanks to your guidance I have a chance to make this goal. be well
Jane penland hoover
Monday, December 01, 2008 4:05:51 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Robert, I have been participating, and have a folder with all of the prompts for the Nov PAD Challenge nicely arranged; some of them having been written to and some of them not. I have yet to submit them to the blog. I know that you are doing an honor system here, but I want to make sure. Would it be better if I popped on and jumped into the prompts that I wrote to and get them on the blogsite, or is it ok if I arrange and finish, to make it to the Jan 5 deadline with an organized endeavor? Thanks for yet another opportunity for us to unfurl our poetry wings and take flight. LindaTK
Monday, December 01, 2008 4:33:11 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Totally going on the honor system, Linda. Plus, everyone's seen your name around this blog enough to know you're a regular.
Robert Brewer
Monday, December 01, 2008 5:43:29 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
This is my first time doing this. I have a question:

Robert, do you prefer the chapbook in the body of an email, or would you like it paged out in an attachment? If so, what format? Microsoft word?

Thanks!
Monday, December 01, 2008 6:27:32 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Robert, just a quicky... if a poem is over a page do we continue it or rduce the type font??

Cheers again for everything

Iain
Iain D. Kemp
Monday, December 01, 2008 6:36:34 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
thanks for letting those of us who didn't post our work to the site come in for the chapbook competition at the end. i'm part of an online critique group of six or seven poets and four of us took the challenge and posted to each other for accountability and encouragement but not critique during the month. i'm planning to submit a chapbook and i think some of the others are as well.
Becky Haigler
Monday, December 01, 2008 6:37:33 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Robert, two quick questions: Would you prefer a pdf file? I think that way you would be able to read it with any software.

Also, do you mind if I include illustrations?

Thanks, Michelle
Michelle H.
Monday, December 01, 2008 7:19:34 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
I'm going to update the post above to include these answers, but here are the answers to questions asked so far.

Q: Chapbook in body of e-mail or as attachment? If attachment, what format?

A: Please send as either a .txt or .doc (not .docx) file.

Q: If poem is over a page, how should it be handled?

A: This is why I'm asking for submissions of 10-20 pages, instead of asking for 10-20 poems. It's all right for poems to go over one page, so long as you don't go over the 20-page limit. It's entirely possible, though not plausible, that a chapbook submission could be one 20-page long poem (just as long as it doesn't go on to page 21).

Q: Can I include illustrations?

A: No. Just words please.
Robert Brewer
Monday, December 01, 2008 8:44:23 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Thanks Robert

Iain
Iain D. Kemp
Monday, December 01, 2008 11:38:22 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Robert,

I was here for the April challenge and grew silent due to health issues and then I worked on revising a chapbook that did not use any of the April poems. How is that for ironic?

I have enjoyed this challenge so very much and I wanted to pause a moment to thank you. And thank your wife for stepping up when you needed her to keep the blog rolling. I have enjoyed your sharing these personal insights almost as much as I have enjoyed the challenge of writing poems for the prompt. And even then, it comes in a very close second because I like to live vicariously.
Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:54:03 AM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Tonight I was sad because I didn't have everyone's poems to read! Now I guess I'll have to spend more time on the things I neglected last month. But it was so worth it. Thanks for everything, Robert!

I know it has been a very emotionally difficult month for some of the poets. Thanks for pouring out your heart and soul. Now, take it easy and enjoy the holidays- see you on Wednesdays!!

Laurie K.
Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:56:00 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Hallo, LindaTK! I didn't know you were taking part anymore so I just postd my poems as Linda instead of Linda H. Guess it's time to go back to the old system. Wonder what happened to the Linda #3??

Linda H.
Linda H.
Tuesday, December 02, 2008 2:52:50 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Hi to you, too, Linda H! Yeah, Linda seems to be a repetitive theme here. I wonder what that-all means? Hm-m-m-m. Gotta think on that one! It's nice to read your voice! Linda
Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:17:33 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Hi to you all!
Robert, thanks so much for the challenge, I appreciate your prompts and your encouragements. If it wasn't for your April Challenge and then this November Challenge I never would have realized what I am capable of creating.
I am glad most participants posted on the blog - it was inspiring and uplifting to watch everybody baring their souls.
Due to this challenge I will be putting together a second book of material - only this time it is going to be more uplifting - I never realized how depressing my topic (Human Rights) could get on research - so again, I learned a valuable lesson on topic/subject matter.
All my best to anyone who reads this...
Vanessa O'D
Vanessa O'Dwyer
Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:33:21 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
I, too, am missing the daily reading of everyone's poems. Guess I will have to go back and reread more carefully the ones posted here, weds and all. Hopefully, I won't get too frazzeled with the upcoming move and all that entails and stop participating, like i did after the April PAD. Thanks again, Robert. And everyone else.

Linda in Germany, how's your online critque going?
A.C. Leming
Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:23:56 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
i will get my other two november p.a.d. poems posted tonight. i have been (un-)remarkably busy.
Friday, December 05, 2008 4:00:21 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
I have a couple questions:

1. Is it okay to participate if you didn't finish every single prompt in November? (I tried my best, but with my very late start, I still have a few stragglers to complete in December.)

2. In revising the poems, is it okay if they no longer quite fit the prompt they were written for? For example, I'm thinking I want to take the call to action part out of my Call to Action poem.

Thanks so much for the motivation to get writing. It enabled me to work through some of the personal family issues I had to contend with right before the challenge opened. There's nothing quite like putting pen to paper to exorcise the demons!
Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:07:35 PM (GMT Standard Time, UTC+00:00)
Someone clued me in to your website and joined up and wanted
to post one of my poems!

AMERICAN IDOL

There's nothing funnier to me
then watching people
making fools out of themselves on TV
by trying to sing something
when they obviously just can't bring
anything close to a sound like singing
It's hilarious, knee slappin'
belly laughing fun
Simon's eyes roll or get real big
Randy hides his laughter behind a folder
and Paula tries so hard to find something
nice to say somehow, any way
and the idiots that think they can sing
are astonished when they don't ring
that "you're going to Hollywood" thing
They cry, they scream,
they beg and plead
but just can't see
they're talentless, gee
So who's been filling them up with lies
Whose been telling them all their lives
That they've got talent
when it's plain to see
Ain't no way they got game
they're just unbelievable,
sadly LAME!!!!!!!

Patty
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