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      <title>Reader Comments: Parody, slams, getting started, and more</title>
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One of the things I value about this blog is the community that's built up around
it. As a result, my posts are often just a springboard to more helpful information
and poetic discussion. So, when it seems appropriate, I'm going to collect comments
that readers have made to posts that could benefit the whole group.
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with or at?: The simple joy of parody poems&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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So the rest of you won't have to work as hard as I did to find the poem We Real White,
try the URL below.It goes directly to the poem rather than to the poet list. The poet
was Matthais Peterson Brandt. 
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Now, this would be a great pre-Wednesday prompt, giving us time to figure out how
to do one of these ourselves. Maybe you could do a two-for-one Wednesday if you had
another idea in mind 
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I had always considered a parody as making fun of something, but this is simply writing
a poem using the original as a template. Thanks for the idea, your poem, and the reference
to the We Real White poem. It is fun. 
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Sheryl Kay Oder |SkoderAT NOSPAMaol dot com
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(P.S. I found another great parody poem this weekend from a back issue of &lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.rattle.com"&gt;Rattle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; called &lt;a href="http://www.rattle.com/rattle27/richardsj.htm"&gt;“T.S.
Eliot’s Lost Hip Hop Poem,”&lt;/a&gt; by Jeremy Richards.)
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&lt;strong&gt;From &lt;a href="http://blog.writersdigest.com/poeticasides/Poetry+FAQs+Making+Your+Mark.aspx"&gt;Poetry
FAQs: Making Your Mark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
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I would add, keep the poems you write organized and accessible in some way. 
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Like you, Robert, I wrote poetry for years before really attempting to publish it.
Alas, I was not organized about it, wrote it into various notebooks, etc. 
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Finally, I wrote one I wanted to keep, so being a person involved with more than one
computer, I looked around for a way to make them accessible to all of them and ended
up putting them up first in yahoo briefcase and later in google documents. 
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With google documents, I can go back and see (and retrieve, if I need to) prior revisions.
I can go back easily and revise old poems. They are handy to submit. 
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Having my poems organized and accessible was a real turning point for me. I think
it was about a year or two after I started keeping track of them that I was reading
an ezine and noticed that I had a poem that fit into the parameters for their current
contest. It was a finalist, and this finally got me off my ass, joined a critique
group, started reading and writing more poetry, submitting, etc. 
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Margaret |infoAT NOSPAMmargaretfieland dot com
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Start your own critique group. That's what I did and we've been going about a month
now. I emailed a few people from the challenge asking if they would be interested.
We got the guidelines from Alessa Leming's critique group. Unfortunately, I don't
have the website information handy. Alessa, if you're out there, please help this
person!!! 
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Basically, for a small group, one person submits material each week on Sunday, the
others send helpful comments by Wednesday, the person revises and sends to others
by Sunday. A new week begins, a new person submits material, and it starts all over
again. I had never been in a critique group before, let alone online, but I can tell
you it is really worth it. Post a notice in the forum for people who are interested
and give it a try. 
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Good luck. 
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Linda H. |LNSHOFKEAT NOSPAMyahoo dot com
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To riff on Margaret's excellent comments re: organization: 
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I always write by hand - but then I key all work in and edit on my Mac. I have a folder
on my desktop: Amy Writings. 
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Within that, there are folders: Prose, Poetry, The Book (don't get me started on that
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Within Poetry, there are some folders: 
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Poems 
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How to Get Stuff Published 
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Submissions 
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Rejections - Building Blocks 
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Sites to Avoid 
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Good Sites 
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You can easily copy a file into a folder and move it around. I always retitle when
submitting, for ex: "A Cup Of Coffee," Pedestal 6-08 
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Can't you tell I used to be an admin. asst.? ha ha good night and good luck, Peace,
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Amy Barlow Liberatore |poetmomskasAT NOSPAMrochester dot rr dot com
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&lt;strong&gt;From &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://blog.writersdigest.com/poeticasides/Selfpublishing++Slamming+An+Interview+With+Poet+Bill+Abbott.aspx"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Self-publishing
and slamming: an interview with poet Bill Abbott&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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I'm sure there's a slam in Buffalo. Try the slam finder at: 
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&lt;a href="http://www.poetryslam.com/index.php?option=com_sobi2&amp;amp;Itemid=75"&gt;http://www.poetryslam.com/index.php?option=com_sobi2&amp;amp;Itemid=75&lt;/a&gt; 
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The founder of slam, Marc Smith, named it that as a connection to baseball, where
a grand slam is a huge success. 
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Good luck with the 60-day challenge.
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Bill Abbott |slamguyAT NOSPAMwoh dot rr dot com
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