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 Thursday, September 20, 2007
Fibonacci Poetry: A new poetic form!
Posted by Robert
Fibonacci poetry was founded by Gregory K. Pincus last year as a 6-line poem that follows the Fibonacci sequence for syllable count per line.
For the 6-line poem that means:
- 1 syllable for first line
- 1 syllable for second line
- 2 syllables for third
- 3 syllables for fourth
- 5 syllables for fifth
- 8 syllables for sixth
An example:
"Confession"
My first poem was not a Fibonacci or even an unrhymed sestina.
There are variations where the Fibonacci expands even further with each line, but to understand how to accomplish this, you need to understand the Fibonacci math sequence of starting with 0 and 1 and then adding the last two numbers together to add to infinity.
0+1=1 1+1=2 1+2=3 2+3=5 3+5=8 5+8=13 8+13=21 13+21=34 and so on and so forth...
Anyway, those lines can easily get more and more unwieldy the more you let them expand.
Here's how my example might expand, for instance:
"A Longer Confession"
My first poem was not a Fibonacci or even an unrhymed sestina; my first poem was not a sonnet or triolet, a ghazal or haiku; my first poem wasn't free form, either: I don't know what it was.
Yeah, 21 syllables is a lot of syllables for one line. So, there's another variation that has taken flight in making Fibonacci poems that ascend and descend in syllables.
My tired example:
"A Bell Curve Confession"
My first poem was not a Fibonacci or even an unrhymed sestina; my first poem wasn't a sonnet, triolet, ghazal, haiku or even free verse.
For poets who also like mathematics (am I the only one raising my hand?), this is definitely an interesting form to get your mind working.
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Here's more on the Fibonacci poem:
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9/20/2007 1:05:21 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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 Wednesday, September 19, 2007
180 Poems Free Online!
Posted by Robert
Stumbled across the Library of Congress Poetry 180 site that offers educators access to a poem a day through the school year. That's right: 180 poems by poets, such as Billy Collins, Thomas Lux, and Dorianne Laux.
While this is great for secondary ed students, it's also a wonderful resource for all lovers of poetry. Just go to http://www.loc.gov/poetry/180/p180-list.html to check it out.
General | Poets
9/19/2007 4:47:34 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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LOTS of Poet's Market updates...
Posted by Nancy
Here are some changes to note in your copy of the 2008 edition of Poet's Market:
1) The e-mail addy in the Pennsylvania Poetry Society Annual Contest
listing should be changed from pps_contest_chair@hotmail.com (now
inactive) to paperlesspoetsonline@hotmail.com.
2) "I'm sorry to say, my journal eye is no more," writes editor Peter
Schwartz. I'm adding eye to the "Closing Post 2008 Edition" list at the
bottom here.
3) Lyric Poetry Review did not appear in the 2008 edition, but should have
(another verification that went into an e-mail black hole). Submission
guidelines are here. Additional update: Nathaniel Perry should now be
listed as editor.
4) John Palattella, poetry editor for The Nation, writes:
Please note that as of 10 September, the guidelines for submitting poems to The Nation are as follows.
The Nation welcomes unsolicited poetry submissions. You may send up to three poems at a time, and no more than eight poems during a calendar year. Send poems by First-Class Mail, accompanied by a self-addressed, stamped envelope. The Nation does not read simultaneous submissions, nor can it reply to or return poems sent by fax or e-mail or submitted without an SASE. Manuscripts may be mailed to:
John Palattella
Poetry Editor
The Nation
33 Irving Place
New York, NY 10003
The submission guidelines are posted on The Nation's website.
5) Yemassee has new contact information: E-mail:
editor@yemasseejournal.org. Website: www.yemasseejournal.org.
Contact: Darien Cavanaugh and Jonathan Maricle, co-editors.
6) The Concrete Wolf Chapbook Press Contest did not appear in the 2008
edition; however, we were later notified that their contact information has
changed to: Address: P.O. Box 788, Kirkland WA 98083. E-mail:
concretewolf@yahoo.com. Website: http://concretewolf.com. Contact:
Lana Hechtman Ayers, editor/publisher.
7) Although Southern California Review didn't appear in the 2008 edition,
Annlee Ellingson, editor-in-chief, notified us of lots of changes in contact
information (note: also a change of title--formerly Southern California
Anthology): Address: c/o Master of Professional Writing Program, 3501
Trousdale Parkway, Mark Taper Hall, THH 355J, University of Southern
California, Los Angeles CA 90089-0355. E-mail: scr@college.usc.edu.
Website: www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/mpw/students/sca.php.
Special note: This post by Reb Livingston shows why small journals and presses and their editors are my heroes. Talk about dedication. Show your appreciation--buy a small press publication today! (Reb's magazine and press are not listed in Poet's Market; read her post--do NOT send her queries or manuscripts.)
--Nancy
More Poet's Market updates are available here.
A list of closed literary journals is here.
Journal Closings | Poet's Market updates
9/19/2007 3:54:41 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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Shadorma: A highly addictive poetic form from Spain
Posted by Robert
I recently discovered a poetic form called shadorma (thanks to P.J. Nights via Tammy Trendle) that I had no record of in my two poetic form handbooks [kind of like my recent posting about hay(na)ku]. Shadorma is a Spanish 6-line syllabic poem of 3/5/3/3/7/5 syllable lines respectively. Simple as that.
Also, you can link multiple shadorma (shadormas? shadormae?) like in my example below:
"Miss Shadorma"
She throws birds at the school children on playgrounds made of steel who run intense spirals to the chain-link fencing.
Sad teachers watch as they spiral into air like reverse helicopter seeds searching for their maple trees.
I've found myself addicted to writing in this shadorma form. It's simple and has a nice ebb and flow to the lines. Very fun!
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9/19/2007 9:20:27 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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 Tuesday, September 18, 2007
Poet Tess Gallagher speaks on power of poetry
Posted by Robert
Poetry News | Poets
9/18/2007 10:42:55 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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 Monday, September 17, 2007
Hay(na)ku: Counting up a new poetic form
Posted by Robert
Hay(na)ku is a very simple poetic form, and it's also one of the newest. It was apparently created in 2003 by poet Eileen Tabios.
Hay(na)ku is a 3-line poem with one word in the first line, two words in the second, and three in the third. There are no restrictions beyond this.
A really basic example:
Boys chase girls on the playground.
There are already some variations of this new poetic form. For instance, a reverse hay(na)ku has lines of three, two, and one word(s) for lines one, two, and three respectively. Also, multiple hay(na)ku can be chained together to form longer poems.
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Here are some links to other hay(na)ku sites:
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9/17/2007 10:27:51 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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 Sunday, September 16, 2007
Late Night/Early Morning Sick Poetry
Posted by Robert
Good evening/morning (depending on your Saturday night party attitude)!
For me, it is early, early morning. I've been attacked by a cold all weekend and am having trouble with that sleeping thing I try to do every night. I took my Nyquil, and I've stayed hydrated--hopefully, soon my eyes will get sleepy from typing this post (fingers crossed).
Anyway, I usually find myself writing weird, nonsensical poetry at this time of the night/morning when I'm sick. In fact, I was guilty of such stuff again just minutes ago. Writers write--even when they're sick.
I'm usually not happy with the writing later on, because sometimes it doesn't even make sense to me. But I think writing while I'm sick helps me get through the illness and still feel semi-productive. I think the writing can even act as a distraction, at times, from the discomfort my body is feeling.
Not sure that I have a point with this post--just sharing some of my experience as a poet.
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Also, I don't want to be a tease about the bad stuff I write when I'm up early/late and sick. Though I'll probably regret it later, I'm going to share some of what I've written just minutes earlier. For context, I took my boys to two different festivals Saturday (Ohio is filled with them this time of year). We did hit up the Preble County Pork Festival parade. Woo-hoo!
candy kids collect scraps from the street shove them in bags and accept stickers from every political candidate who wants their parents' votes
candy kids cover their ears when bands march through with drums counting off steps to the county festival
candy kids covet time to enjoy their sweet treasures and want pop and balloons and toys and everything
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p.s. As you tear apart the writing above, please keep in mind that it is only a draft. Also, I'm sick and medicated.
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p.p.s. Hope everyone's sleeping better than me! :)
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9/16/2007 4:09:43 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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 Friday, September 14, 2007
Friday SPAM poetry prompt #914
Posted by Nancy
SPAM prompt line: There are three occasions during the year when you can…
I never clicked on the e-mail that accompanied this line to see what you could do on those three occasions--or to find out what the occasions were. Considering the nature of most SPAM, I didn't really want to know.
So it's up to you to decide. What are the three occasions--and what are you able or permitted to do? You can start with the occasions and make a list (holidays, anniversaries, birthdays, third Friday of every month--start with the obvious and then stretch out with your imagination, these don't have to be the same type of occasion each time); or you can start with whatever it is you can do (kiss a stranger, cheat the government, do the Snoopy joy dance, call in to work sick without being sick--it's totally wide open, make a long list). Or you can do the old "repeat the statement" approach, i.e., write "There are three occasions during the year when you can…" over and over, with a different finish each time.
Once you settle on the occasions and what you can do, carry on with your poem and see where it takes you.
Happy writing!
--Nancy
More poetry prompts are available here. Poetry Prompts
9/14/2007 11:54:42 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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I'm featured on Writer Unboxed
Posted by Robert
General | Personal Updates
9/14/2007 3:21:18 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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I could use some cheering up, let's stop by the Merry Cemetery...
Posted by Nancy
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9/14/2007 12:01:09 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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Recently in the Poet's Market newsletter...
Posted by Nancy
If you don't subscribe to the Poet's Market e-newsletter (go here for free subscription sign-up), you missed the following about online poetry groups:
The new 2008 Poet's Market includes an Insider Report by Donya Dickerson called "Online Poetry Forums: A new community for poets." Donya contacted two successful sites--The Poet Sanctuary and Wild Poetry Forum--and spoke with participants about their experiences in the poetry forum community.
Addressing the benefits of belonging to an online poetry group, M of Wild Poetry Forum says:
"I suppose the primary attraction of poetry forums, no matter the poet's individual goal, is the ability to receive immediate exposure, feedback and critique of writing from other experienced authors. Some of our members write as an emotional outlet or hobby and simply wish to share their writing and their thoughts with other like-minded souls. Other members are published professionals, or hope to be published one day, and are more concerned with the technical aspects of improving their writing skills."
For more on the value of online poetry communities, the kind of criticism poets receive, and how to find a forum that's right for you, see "Online Poetry Forums" in the 2008 Poet's Market.
--Nancy
The Poet's Market e-newsletter is sent twice per month; next edition goes out on September 21. Subscribe today!
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9/14/2007 11:14:20 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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 Thursday, September 13, 2007
Computer Poetry and the Renaissance
Posted by Robert
Poetry News
9/13/2007 12:40:27 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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It's that time of the year again
Posted by Robert
As a runner, I love this time of the year. The temperatures are starting to cool off. The air always seems a little fresher. (Is it possible to have a fresh smog alert?) And soon, the foliage will be turning brilliant colors to contrast with the usual bright blue autumn sky.
As a poet, I love this time of the year for a different reason: This is when the university-run literary journals typically open up their submission reading periods. While reading periods change from journal to journal, most open up around the beginning of September and run through the end of April.
So the time is perfect for both running and submitting here in Southwest Ohio. I've got a new pair of running shoes and a copy of 2008 Poet's Market (edited by my blogging cohort, Nancy Breen). I love this time of year!
Commentary | Personal Updates | Poetry Publishing
9/13/2007 7:48:41 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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 Wednesday, September 12, 2007
Following up on Haiku on September 11
Posted by Robert
Commentary | Poetry News | Poets
9/12/2007 12:54:55 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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 Tuesday, September 11, 2007
Haiku on September 11
Posted by Nancy
I read Robert's posts about haiku here and here, as well as Michael Dylan Welch's comments, with great interest. I've tried haiku in the past, knew I failed, and have also felt "fearful" about trying again. I'm intrigued by everything that goes into writing a true haiku, including saying more with less.
In e-mailing back and forth about an article for the 2009 Poet's Market, Michael and I discussed this fear a bit. I promised Michael I would seriously attempt haiku and post a few here at Poetic Asides.
I realized there was no more challenging subject about which to say more with less than the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. I experienced September 11, 2001 in a very peripheral way--literally. That morning my mother and I were in Gettysburg, having spent the night en route to a few days in Amish country. We were actually blissfully unaware of the attacks as we searched for Marianne Moore's grave in Evergreen Cemetery and contemplated the beautiful, peaceful scene in the Valley of Death from Little Round Top.
It wasn't until we stopped at an antique mall halfway to York that we first heard what had happened. In shock, we immediately started back to Ohio. With Washington so close to the south, there was a special urgency in the radio reports we were listening to. In one of the rest stations on the Pennsylvania Turnpike, we overheard plenty of discussion of the New York part of the tragedy, as people wandered with cell phones to their ears, absorbed in agitated conversations, their eyes wide with fear and confusion.
And, as we sped through Somerset County within miles of Shanksville, we passed emergency equipment heading east, lights flashing, although Flight 93 had gone down hours before.
In 2002, on our way home from the Dodge Poetry Festival, we made a detour off the turnpike to visit the Flight 93 memorial. It was only a year and week later; a mood of requiem was still strong--at the festival, in the small towns of New Jersey, and in Pennsylvania.
It's definitely a challenge to distill all that into captured moments; to forego the emotions, the intensity of the memories, the politics, the impulse to comment at length and memorialize. But I said I'd try, so here they are--my haiku for September 11 (attempted):
bone-white stones
the poet's grave eludes us
crow and dried roses
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clear September day
a blue sky to remember
leaves papers ash drift
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soft yellow showers
faint whiffs of distant smoke
crickets on stone walls
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stillness on Round Top
in the cannon's muzzle
a spider's web
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cows and goldenrod
a siren on the turnpike
milking time is soon
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field in late summer
tributes on a chain-link fence
grass conceals the scars
--Nancy
P.S. Here's a moving piece about an artist's musical response to 9/11. Commentary | Poetic Forms
9/11/2007 10:57:01 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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 Saturday, September 08, 2007
Concrete Poems: Or Sculpting Poetry
Posted by Robert
Concrete poetry is one of the more experimental poetic forms available to poets. Concrete poems use space and sound to communicate the meanings of the words. Words can cover other words; and the poem has trouble standing without the structure. Concrete poetry is more visual than other poetic forms.
Of course, concrete poetry has plenty of detractors because of the weight structure has on the words, but as much thought goes into concrete poetry as any other form.
Here's an example:
"The 800"
We line up. We wait for the "set" and then gunblastexplosionbangandwe'reoff run ni ng in ou rf ir st ci rc le, ou rf ir st lap, but th er ea lr ac es ta rt so nt he se co nd lap, and then we're tumbling in from first to last.
As you can see from this example, taken from my days of running track & field, the structure gives the poem added weight and importance. Without the structure, this poem would just read:
"We line up. We wait for the 'set' and then gun blast explosion band and we're off running our first circle, our first lap, but the real race starts on the second lap, and then we're tumbling in from first to last."
In the concrete form, I was able to simulate the two laps that an 800 racer must run, which coincidentally forms a figure 8. Also, I can simulate the wait before the gun blast to start the race and the initial jumbled feeling of the start all the way through to the way each runner finishes in a different place "from first to last."
This form can be very fun to write. Of course, you'll need to think of subjects that open themselves up to a certain type of form. You could write a heart-shaped love poem, a scary jack-o-lantern poem. The sky really is the limit (or is it?).
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9/8/2007 10:13:25 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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 Friday, September 07, 2007
Friday SPAM poetry prompt #907
Posted by Nancy
SPAM prompt line: Over 800 models
Maybe it's because it's "fashion week" in New York (which I only know because I heard David Letterman mention it), but this line jumped out at me. Ye gods, 800 models! That's an awful lot of bony knees and sharp elbows in one place.
Or maybe that's not the case at all. Who are these models? Where are they, and why are there so many of them? Is it the world's largest runway show? Some kind of protest? A convention or conference? Are they skinny fashion models or plus-size, or a bipartisan mix? Are they male or female? What are they wearing--or not wearing?
Write a poem about these 800 models. Give your imagination a workout; try to avoid the stereotypes regarding setting as well as people. The models could be children, although 800 child models sounds like a frightening kind of chaos. And yet, maybe that's your poem.
By the way, I was once in a children's fashion show. I think I was 11, and I wasn't fat yet. The show was at a PTA meeting in St. Cecilia's cafeteria--but we had a runway. A local children's clothing store we couldn't afford to shop in called the Pink Pixie provided the clothes. It was the first time a brush blush ever touched my cheeks, and I was fascinated. My mother and grandmothers either used cake rouge or simply dabbed a bit of their dark lipstick from their lips and massaged it onto their cheekbones. I was totally forgettable in my blue corduroy jumper, but my brother stole the show. A cute five-year-old in a sailor-like outfit, he toddled onto the runway with his finger in his mouth and captured the hearts of every mother there. We each got a pink balloon at the end of the runway, handed to us by a pair of teenage girls dressed as pixies--in green, which didn't seem consistent with their branding. We didn't get to keep the clothes.
Anyway...if you want an extra challenge, integrate the "over 800 models" phrase into one of the repeating lines in a villanelle.
Of course, maybe you imagine 800 models of cars, or 800 model planes, or 800 models of refrigerators or washers. If you want to take it in that direction instead, go right ahead. No one but you will ever know.
--Nancy
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9/7/2007 4:59:22 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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Make Poetic Asides Your Friend...
Posted by Robert
...on MySpace!
I've created a Poetic Asides profile on MySpace and will be glad to befriend and communicate with all the readers of the Poetic Asides blog. While our blog entries will be handled here, I do realize that many people (myself included) would rather ask questions in a one-on-one setting. And I know y'all want to be friends with me.
If you have a MySpace profile already, just go to http://myspace.com/poeticasides and request me as a friend.
If you don't have a MySpace profile already, just go to http://myspace.com and create a new account (they're free and only take a few minutes). Then, go to http://myspace.com/poeticasides and request me as a friend.
Leave comments, send messages, have fun. 'Nuff said. :)
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O yeah, and have a great weekend!
General | Personal Updates
9/7/2007 9:20:19 AM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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 Thursday, September 06, 2007
My Submission Process
Posted by Robert
Today, I received a nice rejection on some poems I submitted to Thieves Jargon. I also sent out a group of poems to Burnside Review. Since I went through the process of marking a submission and rejection on the same day, I got to thinking about how I submit poems, including how I keep everything organized. It's extremely lo-tech.
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This is how I organize my poems: I copy them by hand into those black & white marble composition notebooks. I number each page to help with referencing where each poem is.
I reserve around 10 pages of room at the end of each notebook to make submission notes for the entire book. Basically, I make four columns: Date of submission; where the submission went (for instance, Burnside Review today); which poems (I include poem titles and page number in the composition notebook); and the result (whether poems were accepted or rejected and the date of response).
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When I make a submission of poems, I mark the columns with the appropriate information in the back. But to ensure that I don't accidentally send the same poem out to several publications, I also create columns beside each poem that I cross-reference with the information in the back: Name of publication; date of submission; date of acceptance; and date of rejection.
If a poem has no response or has been accepted, then I know not to submit it elsewhere. If a poem's current status is rejected, then I know it's available to submit. If it's been rejected several times, I know there's a possibility it should be revised or abandoned.
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So, that's how I do it. Submitting multiple poems to multiple publications can be confusing. However, with this system, I've had no problems keeping on top of where my poems are. Advice | Commentary | Personal Updates | Poetry Publishing
9/6/2007 4:54:08 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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 Wednesday, September 05, 2007
Should Poets and Politics Mix?
Posted by Robert
"Stranded: Poet Mark Strand Preaches Political Indifference at UCI," by Victor D. Infante from About.com (reprinted from The Orange County Weekly), examines a comment made by Strand that poets should rise above politics in their poetry, as well as stating that rap and poetry share no connection.
Since I was not there to see the context of his answer, I cannot speak to Strand's specific quotes. However, I think it's difficult to separate poetry from music--whether verse/chorus/verse or rap songs. Slam poetry is definitely a poetic form and part of the poetry world, and there are many great slam poems that sound like rap without the "fat" beats. And many song lyrics read as free verse and/or metered poetry if you remove the accompanying music.
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Also, I'm conflicted about the politics and poetry not mixing idea. This is very dangerous--on both sides of the trenches.
On one side, poetry that is all politics can be more than a little preachy, which can alienate many readers--much like a door-to-door salesperson or that crazy guy who stands on soapboxes all day warning of the end of the world. You know, sometimes the message can kill the poem's effectiveness as a poem.
On the other side, poets who don't report the world as they see it do a disservice to their time and place, as well as the readers of their specific time and place. Avoiding politics can cause readers to feel displaced from the writing of the poet. Not every poem has to be timeless, after all. Neruda understood this when he tackled both the timely (politics) and timeless (love) topics.
And really the best poetry that I read tries to get at both the timely and timeless at the same time. It's that juxtaposition that really gets me jazzed up.
Of course, I'd love to hear others thoughts on this as well.
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(Also, apologies to Mark Strand for having this particular article singled out. I really don't know in what context he made various comments--so don't let this post affect your opinion of him. However, this article did get me thinking about some important issues we all face as poets. Strand is a great poet, and I suggest you read plenty of his work if you haven't already.)
Commentary | Poetry Craft Tips | Poetry News | Poets
9/5/2007 2:16:12 PM (Eastern Daylight Time, UTC-04:00)
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