Friday, April 04, 2008
April PAD Challenge: Day 4
Posted by Robert

Sorry for the late post today. It's been a doozy of a morning. First, the power was knocked out by some intense storms early this morning, so my alarm did not wake me up this morning. Luckily, my girlfriend called--giving me just enough time to rush over and make my oil change appointment (in a very disoriented state of mind). Once at the dealership, I was told the average oil change wait time is 30-45 minutes. "Good, good," I thought, "that'll give me just enough time to get a start on my poem for today." So anyway, I guess I should've been trying to get a start on my Great American Novel, because 105 minutes later I'm politely asking if maybe they called my name and I didn't hear them. "Actually, no," they said--also politely, "The car in line before you had problems getting off THE RACK." So yeah, I'm not one to make a big fuss, so I said, "Cool," and sat back down worried about posting for y'all (because I'm always thinking of my wonderful blog readers) and just attributed it to some weird Friday bad luck. Anyway, 2 hours after arriving, they finally had me set to go. I pull out my wallet and find out that all I have to do is sign my name and leave. The service guy didn't even bother telling me it was on the house, and--as mentioned earlier--I'm not one of those people who pushes for that kind of stuff. So, yeah, nice ending to a weird morning. I'm thankful for the way they treated me without forcing me to be a jerk--and without making a big "to do" about how they were giving me excellent customer service by putting it on the house. It's the little things really. Anyway, that was a huge ramble. And now, on to the prompt!

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Actually, that ramble kind of perfectly fits in with today's prompt, which is to write a thankful poem (at the time, I was thinking TGIF=thankful poem?). Another option is to write a tribute poem. The thankful/tribute poem can be dedicated to a person, an inanimate object, an idea, a day of the week, etc.

For my part, I used this prompt to write a poem on a subject that I've just never been able to tackle: my mother. She's one of those people who is so perfect that every poem I've ever tried writing about her has been kind of blah. But you know what, who cares? So here goes:

"My Mother"

She began working in a car factory at 18,
got married, had 3 boys, and thought
of eventually doing something other
than working in a car factory. But she believed
in providing. Even after the divorce, she
worked and worked and did not let it
keep her from shuttling 3 boys between
practices and events; she did not let
it keep her from attending those events
and getting to know the boys' friends; and
she never once complained "it's not fair."
She was the only parent to be so involved
who also gave her children the freedom
to grow up at indie rock shows and staying out
late at night. "Just wake me when you get in,"
she'd say, "so I don't wake up worried."
She worked and cared for 3 sons, who
went on to become 3 successes--who
had 1 parent to thank for everything.

This poem is sappy and personal and the kind of poem many serious poets would attack as not poetry. I would seriously dispute any such claim. I agree that this is not "publishable poetry," but it is still poetry. Just because a poem is not meant for The New Yorker or The Atlantic, it doesn't mean that it's not a poem--or even that it's not a good poem. For instance, this poem really helped remind me just how thankful I am for my mother and how much she means to me. And when I read it to her tonight, I know she'll realize just how much she means to me as well. So even though this poem is only intended for an audience of 2--it scores a 100% for those two. Don't value your poetry solely off your publication credits and rejection slips; by writing and sharing your writing, you are doing something great. For real.

I'm sorry; I'm totally rambly and sentimental this morning/early afternoon. :)

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Some quick notes: First, I'm going to be visiting my grandmother in the Gatlinburg, Tennessee, area this weekend. She doesn't have a computer; and I've never tried locating the Internet down there--so my posts this weekend may be a bit on the inconsistent side. I'm going to try and keep them coming in the mornings though.

Second, due to popular request, I'm going to randomly provide posts with poems that I've particularly liked from each day's prompt--probably grouping a few prompts together. So on Monday, I'll see if I can get that first batch together.

Third, I'm very thankful to all of you who've been participating in this challenge with me. Your responses have totally overwhelmed me (in a fantastic way). Let's keep at it!

 


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 Thursday, April 03, 2008
April PAD Challenge: Day 3
Posted by Robert

As with many programs, getting through the 3rd day is usually the toughest. So I'm going to try and make Day 3 a little easier to help everyone complete the first 10% of our challenge. The way I look at it 3 days should equal 3 lines; in other words, today we'll be writing a haiku.

The official Day 3 prompt: write a haiku.

Now, you ask: What constitutes a haiku? (Very good question, by the way.)

Here are some previous posts I've made about this form:

* Haiku: Easy or Hard?

* Haiku Revisited

* Haiku on September 11 (posted by Nancy Breen)

If you're not big on researching the haiku, here's a quick primer on what constitutes a haiku:

1. It's a 3-line poem.

2. While many think the lines should be 5-7-5 syllables, that's actually not true. It's 5-7-5 "sounds" if you're writing in Japanese. For English purposes, it tends to be a shorter 1st and 3rd line--with a slightly longer 2nd line.

3. The haiku describes nature--with an emphasis on description. Haiku do not rhyme or use metaphors and/or similes.

4. Haiku includes a word to indicate season. For instance, the word "frog" might indicate spring; the word "snow" might indicate winter.

5. There's also usually a juxtaposition of two sensory images. For instance, the most famous haiku involves a frog jumping into a pond as the first sensory image--the water's sound as the second. When put together, the sensory images turn a very simple moment into a profound poem.

There are more rules--if you want to do the research--but this gives a good enough outline of what makes a haiku. For writing your own, it's best to just observe the world around you, make notes, and see if you can spot connections that help you understand nature and the world around you better.

Here's my attempt:

Plastic bag
caught in the tree branches;
birds build their nests.

Now get haiku-ing!


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 Wednesday, April 02, 2008
April PAD Challenge: Day 2
Posted by Robert

Wow! Y'all came through in a big way yesterday. I'm so pleased that I nearly had a heart attack coming in this morning and seeing the response. Woo-hoo!

Before I get into the prompt, I wanted to address a few questions that came up yesterday. First off, yes, you can add your poem after midnight of the day of the prompt. That means you can play "catch up" later in the month if you ever fall behind. Thinking long term, all poems should be in by the first weekend of May at least.

Second, I don't care if you post previous poems if they align with the challenge, but just remember: That kind of defeats the purpose of this challenge, since we're concerned with writing new material. As we would say in track practice, "You'll only be cheating yourself."

Third, poems should be posted in the Comments here. If you try multiple times and still have problems posting, feel free to email your poem to me (robert.brewer@fwpubs.com) with "Poetry Prompt Response" in the subject line--along with which prompt (by number) it goes with and your name. Then, I'll paste those into the comments myself.

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Okay, then. So here we go with Prompt #2: Put yourself in someone (or something) else's skin and write a poem about the experience. Who (or what) ever you become, please make that the title of the poem. If you're Buddy Holly, your poem should be called "Buddy Holly." If you're the Bates Motel, your poem should be called "Bates Motel." And so on.

Think hard on this one. My first attempt did not work out as well as I thought it might (imagining I was Dolly Parton). However, I think I'm good with my second subject, which is...

"Godzilla"

I was raised by whales--
maybe why I hide under water;
that and the fact those people always--
and I mean always--
shoot stuff at me.

Bad enough I'm constantly catching their little buildings--
awkward as they are--
between my toes,
but when I try to speak,
when I try to say,
"I just want to get along,"
all that comes out is my mother tongue,
straight up whale,
which,
contrary to popular belief,
sounds terrifying out of water.

For instance,
I love you becomes,
"Aaaiiiaraiargaiaiarrrrrr..."

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For another example and an even better Godzilla poem, check out this one by Aaron Belz. (If I'd known this existed earlier, I would've written a King Kong poem.) ;)

 


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 Tuesday, April 01, 2008
April PAD Challenge: Day 1
Posted by Robert

Soooooo, time to begin the April Poem-A-Day challenge! I can tell from the site traffic and personal emails waiting for me this morning that everyone is chomping at the bit to get started. I don't blame you. This is exciting for me as well.

We'll start off with a softball (no reason to pull any muscles on the first day of the challenge, right?): Since today is the first day of the month, write a poem about a first or a series of firsts. This first could be a first love, first job, first funeral, first marriage, first divorce, first child, first Wal-Mart shopping experience, etc. You could also flip this around to be a poem about beginnings (after all, the beginning of anything is also a first step in a process).

Since I promised I would write a poem-a-day to match the prompt-a-day, here's a little poem I put together this morning about my first (and luckily only) cast.

"The Cast"

We kept it in a plastic bag
as if it were a comic book
or meat that needed freezing;
it hooked around my thumb
and traveled to my elbow--
the result of jumping a fence
too fast to chase down a ball
hit for a homer, my shoestring
caught and swung me to the ground
where a stone waited to fracture.
The rest of that summer, I
batted one-handed, played catcher,
and let everyone sign it.
I've never needed another,
and we never did find that ball.

Remember: You don't need to write a "revised" poem; you just need to write a draft. Revision can wait until May.

Once you finish the poem, paste it into the comments below. Heck, you could just type the first draft right into the comments box. (If you do this though, copy and paste the draft somewhere else before posting--just in case any technical glitches erase your comments.)

But wait! There's more!

Since I like to listen to classic rock stations that offer "Two for Tuesday" songs by the same band on Tuesday, well, I'm going to offer "Two for Tuesday" prompts. Woo-hoo!

If you're not feeling that initial prompt, you can try this one instead. (But don't feel obligated to write a poem for both prompts--unless you're an overachiever.)

Extra prompt: Since today is also April Fool's Day, write a prank poem. This could get very fun and very creative.

Okay, that's enough for now. Get at it!


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 Friday, March 28, 2008
Poem-a-day in April: Write, Read, Etc.
Posted by Robert

So I've been going out of my way to build excitement about my write a poem-a-day challenge in April. Should be big-time fun for all.

But the Academy of American Poets has announced you can also read a poem-a-day in April. Just go to http://www.poets.org/poemaday, and enter your e-mail address.

Their newsletter claims you can expect work from poets, such as Charles Simic, James Tate, Caroline Knox, Cate Marvin, and many more.

It only took me about 5.6 seconds to sign up. Very fast. Very easy.


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 Thursday, March 27, 2008
Why there's no one true form of poetry (and why there shouldn't be)
Posted by Robert

Stumbled upon "Japanese Poetry Persists in Korea, Despite Disapproval," by Choe Sang-Hun from The New York Times, and found myself going back over that dangerous territory of what the purpose of poetry might be, could be and should be.

In this case, the poetic forms used by Korean poets can actually cause public shame and disapproval. Imagine getting dissed at a writers conference because you write triolets or kyrielles--not because they're bad poems, but because they're poetic forms with French origins. Such actions take poetry out of the realm of "just words" and makes it a very human activity.

Poetry is always important, but it reaches a new level when poets feel they have to hide their tanka and haiku out of fear and/or shame.

So read the article and think about it; talk about it with your friends; and keep it in mind throughout National Poetry Month (April here in the States).

 


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 Wednesday, March 26, 2008
Is poetry a collectible commodity?
Posted by Robert

There's nothing especially unique about this news story about Eureka Books celebrating national poetry month. I mean, many poets (including me) have their plans for getting through April. But reading the article kickstarted my brain into motion: Can poetry be a collectible commodity?

It's so obvious that the answer is yes. But even with my background in collecting bubble gum cards and comics I still had trouble seeing the forest from the trees. I, of course, know the value of a first edition of books, but most trade books are not printed with the intent of becoming a collectible--it's just something that happens when an unknown author suddenly finds him or her self in the position of being Stephen King or J.K. Rowling. If the publishers knew they were going to sell 500,000 copies initially, then they would've printed them up that way (notice the difference in how many first edition copies of Harry Potter were printed between Potter's first year and seventh at Hogwarts).

Anyway, I'm getting off topic. In the article above, Jack Irvine says, "Broadsides have become very popular among collectors, because it's an affordable way to get a signed, limited edition work by a favorite author. It's a great way to display a work of literature on the wall, and they do frame up very nicely."

I found speaking about poetry in this way very interesting. It sounds as if the broadsides could be framed as works of art. Imagine someone visiting your house and admiring your framed paintings and then stopping to read a very moving poem--with maybe some cool design elements to complement the work. Now that's art! And that's a collectible, for sure.

So maybe this is yet another avenue for poetry. I know savvy publishers have been going this route for ages, but still. Let me have my epiphanic moment. Okay. Done.

I just wonder if we can ever get to a point where 10-year-old boys and girls are swapping a Bob Hicok and Gwendolyn Brooks for a Louis Gluck and William Carlos Williams. One can always hope.

 


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 Tuesday, March 25, 2008
Exclusive Interview With Up-and-comer Jillian Weise!
Posted by Robert

My girlfriend and I are both poets. As a result, we share our writing with each other, as well as the writing of other poets we admire or discover. Recently, my girlfriend happened upon The Amputee's Guide to Sex, by Jillian Weise from Soft Skull Press, and she's read me about every single poem out of that collection and with good reason: It rocks!

At 26, Weise has been shooting through the academic and poetic stratosphere. After graduating from Florida State and getting her MFA at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro, Weise is currently finishing up her PhD at the University of Cincinnati and plans on teaching at Clemson in the fall. She's also managed to find the time to work as an editorial assistant at The Paris Review and has had two collections of poems published, as well as four one-act plays produced. I'm not even going to get into her fellowships & awards--it's too exhausting. And did I mention that Weise is an amputee herself (an above-the-knee amputation as the result of a birth defect)?

It's easy to get distracted by all the success surrounding Weise and forget about her actual writing, but that would be a mistake. In The Amputee's Guide to Sex, Weise mixes sadness with black humor and writes candidly about the confines of the human body--something everyone can relate to, whether an amputee or not.

One passage, in particular, which I love is from "I Want You to Know This."

He's afraid to hold my hand because he thinks
it might throw me off balance. Hand-holding
doesn't throw me off balance.
I wanted you to know this, because maybe you
wondered about people with fake legs; maybe
you wanted to hold their hand but you didn't
because you thought you might trip.

And with that, let's take a trip with Weise through one of the more energetic interviews I've had in a while.

When and why did you start writing poetry?

 

I started writing on a dare from this guy who goes by Slick Daniels.  We were taking a survey course at FSU when we ran into the Modernists.  Slick said he was taking Poetry Workshop and dared me.  The class was taught by Cynie Cory, who has the same enthusiasm for poems as Noah did for animals.  We read lots of alive writers, which was more exciting than ever--that these guys were alive, and you could e-mail them. 

 

We ended up under a tin roof, blazing through stacks of journals, heard the hoot of the Sirens, drove out to St. George’s Island, the whole time asking: How did you do that in the poem?  And how does Tate do what he does in poems?  And isn’t it effing cool?  But what does it mean?  And are you going to kiss me or something? 

 

You mentioned that your first poem accepted for publication was to The Atlantic. Could you explain your submission process at that time?  How long did you submit poems before that first acceptance? Has your

submission process changed any since then?

 

Slick Daniels sent his poems to one journal at a time while I was shadier about it.  I had poems out--who knows which ones and who knows where. 

 

When the rejections came, we shellacked them to stools & sat on them.  This plan did work.  I sent the same batch of poems to ten journals a month, for about six months, before The Atlantic acceptance.  I didn’t know The Atlantic so I looked it up in Poet’s Market.  Now I submit where poets I like publish.  If Priscilla Becker or Josh Bell or Matthew Dickman or Tim Earley or Kristi Maxwell or Ben Mirov or Abe Smith or Craig Teicher is there, then I want to be there.  It’s like calling ahead of time to see who’s at the party.

 

Creative writing teachers often chant, "Write what you know," to their creative writing students, especially at the beginning levels.  With two published collections dealing with the body, do you agree with

this mantra?

 

Maybe what teachers mean when they say that is don’t write about the fields of sea lilies stretching for hundreds of yards across the ocean floor if you are not an oceanographer.  I say go ahead & write your sea lily poem.  The worst thing that can happen is it’s a bad poem.  The best thing that can happen is you are the next Hilda Doolittle. 

 

I was told to write poems that cost me something to write them.  They cost me a lot.  Too much?  I’m still carrying ones and zeros on the budget.  I go to poems looking for heart.  You can tell when a poet has put a lot of heart into the poem and you can tell when they left it out.  Some of them favor brain.  But for me, all brain is no ache but headache.

 

In The Amputee's Guide to Sex, you deal with the body from a perspective most readers have never experienced. Yet, the collection is surprisingly accessible, perhaps because of the very direct and honest way you treat your subject. Do you feel writing honestly, even if the reader has never experienced it, helps make subject accessible for everyone?

 

Have you heard Maurice Manning read “Three Truths, One Story”?

 

(http://www.cortlandreview.com/features/07/spring/manning.html)

 

I’m happy the poetry comes off honest, but it also makes me nervous since many of the facts of the poems are not true.  I am faithful only to feeling.  I like Emerson’s alter idem, second self, and I like to think the speakers of the poems are second selves. Poems of mine that fail fail because they are too much second and not enough self.

 

As for the perspective, the disabled body has been off-limits in poetry (and culture).  I felt compelled to write about it, it being a part of myself.  On those rare occasions when disability happens in poems it is typically bromidic.  Usually it is just some poet who has run out of ideas, and thinks suddenly, “A-ha, black face!” and then thinks, “No, no, Berryman did it, and it’s offensive,” then thinks: “A-ha, the disabled!  Yes, that’s it, that’s it.”  This results in phantom pain mock-ups, dismemberment metaphors, and perhaps a “cripple” who enters the poem for comment. 

 

You've quickly shot through the graduate program and plan on teaching at Clemson in the fall. What do you feel are the benefits of graduate study? Also, do you feel there are any possible drawbacks?

 

I’m thrilled to be joining Clemson.  There is nothing else I can imagine doing for a living than teaching poetry.  It’s a blast.

 

Prior to a teaching gig, the situation is this: You want to write but who will pay you to do it?  And what else might they make you do in return for the money?  The point is to become a better writer and meet others with the same task.  The possible drawback is that some people, not at my universities of course, aren’t really interested in writing.  They’re more interested in crack cocaine.

 

With four one-act plays produced, do you consider yourself more of a playwright or a poet? Also, do you feel that one style comes easier than the other?

 

Yes.  Both require listening to people, not just what they are saying, but where they are putting their commas in the air.  The last poem I wrote came out of overhearing this guy say, “I just broke up with Sharon. I wish I’d stop doing that with women.”  People are always saying things and not listening to themselves, and I’m indicted here too.  This play, up on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5kq16BbdHo&eurl)

started with hearing someone say, “He’s wearing his belt of fuckdom again.”  I look for these definitely said things, as they are translated, like this from Toomer’s Cane: “You are the sleepiest man I ever seed.”  I love that.  It sounds like someone said that to Toomer or he overheard it somewhere.  I know it’s a play when there’s too much talking in the poem. 

 

As a former editorial assistant for The Paris Review, did you learn anything about the submission, writing and/or editorial process that's helped you as a writer? If so, what?

 

I learned so much from Brigid Hughes, then editor, who now edits A Public Space (http://www.apublicspace.org/) and who is invested in each piece of mail that passes her desk.  I said, “Brigid, how do we know when something is good enough?” And she said, without hesitating, “It is simply undeniable.”

 

If you could pass on one piece of advice to other poets, what would it be?

 

There is no such thing as writer’s block.

 

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Here are some Jillian Weise links:

 

* Soft Skull Press page for The Amputee's Guide to Sex (includes poems from the book)

 

* "Letter From Buenos Aires" on A Public Space

 

* "After Stein If She Were Heterosexually Inclined (With a Nod to Hugh Prather)" on Apocryphal Text

 

* "Dating, Like Surgery" first place from New Millenium Writings

 

* "Us, Like a Bad Mix Tape" on Verse Daily

 

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If you're a poet or publisher interested in being interviewed on Poetic Asides, go here to get more information.

 

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 Friday, March 21, 2008
Poetry Everywhere and Dogs With Blogs?!?
Posted by Robert

The Poetry Foundation is once again doing some really great stuff. Check out "Poetry Everywhere," from FoxBusiness.com, which is an interesting place to find a poetry story in the first place.

For those who aren't big on clicking to other destinations, it basically talks about this new series of poetry films that will be broadcast online and on public transit systems in Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, Orlando, and San Diego.

Since Cincy and Dayton aren't on the list, I would be bummed, but there is the online access at a new PBS Web site and the Poetry Foundation's Web site. So no one should get left out (that can read this blog anyway).

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Speaking of not feeling left out--how about this free writing conference in Illinois at the beginning of April? Don't see that every day.

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Apparently, even dogs have blogs now (maybe they felt left out, though no longer). See "Even your dog has a blog," by Sarah Jio from CNN.com. Hopefully, this doesn't give my bosses any ideas. :)

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Exclusive Interview With Poet Kevin Pilkington
Posted by Robert

Like so many good poets, Kevin Pilkington also teaches writing--in his case, he's a member of the writing faculty at Sarah Lawrence College and teaches a workshop in the graduate department at Manhattanville College. But he doesn't consider teaching a means to an end. "I feel fortunate that I have always enjoyed teaching," says Pilkington. "It's something I do and not just something else I do besides write. I've been teaching writing workshops for most of my adult life and haven't lost my enthusiasm for being in a classroom."

After interviewing him, it's easy to see Pilkington's not just trying to say the right things. His writing informs his teaching, and his teaching informs his writing. And to great effect--he's the author of five collections, including Spare Change, the La Jolla Poets Press National Book Award winner, and Ready to Eat the Sky (River City Publishing), a finalist for an Independent Publishers Book Award. A new chapbook, St. Andrew's Head, was published by Camber Press. Over the years, he's been nominated for four Pushcarts and has appeared in Verse Daily. His poems and reviews have appeared in numerous magazines, including Poetry, Ploughshares, Iowa Review, Boston Review, Yankee, Hayden's Ferry, etc.

As you might expect from a successful poet and teacher, Pilkington has a lot of great information to share in the following interview.

You mentioned in a previous interview that teaching influences your writing. Can you elaborate on this some?

 

Over the years, I have sharpened my critical eye and ear so I can guide young poets through their poems and help them navigate towards what is working and away from what is not. So teaching heightened my critical reading skills, helping me install what Hemingway called “a built-in shit detector” for editing my own poetry.

 

Also, any writing teacher will tell you the importance of reading if you want your poetry to prosper. Reading and writing go together like religion and church: One needs the other to survive. So reading the great poets from the past as well as more contemporary established poets is a major aspect of my workshops. I’ve always believed the best teachers are on the bookshelves. That is how I learned to write my own poetry since I never took a writing class on the undergraduate or graduate levels or had a mentor.

 

If you teach great literature and are surrounded by great models, it seeps into your own writing as if by osmosis. By its very nature, great literature makes you want to go home to your desk and write. A few years back, thinking I was suffering from writer’s block, I became reacquainted with Coleridge's “Dejection: An Ode” where one of the themes is not being able to write. It’s brilliant and shot holes in my writer’s block theory; I haven’t suffered from it since.

 

There have also been images and lines in many poems by talented students that have, to use Richard Hugo’s term, “triggered” ideas that pushed me to begin new poems. So I am quite fortunate to be working in such a creative, fertile environment. On the practical side, there is no heavy lifting.

 

Because of the academic setting, do you feel you get a good opportunity to network with other poets?

 

I know this is a personal response to the word “network” but it has always possessed a negative connotation when it applies to writers and especially poets. There are poets who network, meaning that they attend every literary social event and make sure to get to know the individual who may be an asset in furthering that particular poet’s career. And the stakes are high for them since they are in dire need of another grant, job, or book publication. In Manhattan, these types of events take place almost on a weekly basis. There seems to be an air of artificiality and desperation at such functions. I have never understood what any of that has to do with the real work at hand which is working laboriously over one’s poems. I’d like to believe if the work is good, the rewards (notice I didn’t say awards) will follow.

 

However, if network conotates friendships, then it applies. At Sarah Lawrence College, where I have taught since 1991, I have met some wonderful people and formed lasting friendships. Some are poets and some are not. I have formed strong bonds with many of the poets and writers here on the regular faculty. These friendships have formed organically like most friendships and as a rule, I have a great deal of respect for their work.

 

For a small college, we have a large undergraduate writing program and a well-respected graduate program. During any given week, readings are taking place on campus along with an annual poetry festival. So there are many poets coming to read or teaching workshops. It is wonderful to be a part of such a bustling, creative community.

 

During the past few years, I have taught a workshop in the Master’s of Writing program at Manhattanville College. Aside from teaching, I’ve brought poets and writers to participate in their reading series. Some I know personally or just respect their work. It, too, is a wonderful creative environment. Obviously, I would much rather be a part of these programs that love and work with language rather than work on the roofs like my father did.

 

Because of these affiliations and friendships, some readings and conference work have come my way over the years. I’d like to think that anything I’ve achieved or have yet to achieve is through my poetry and teaching reputation and not by trying to make friends with some literary honchos or by hanging out near the cheese dip at the last book party.

 

You are a well-published poet in well-known journals. When do you know you have enough material for a poetry submission? Why do you choose to submit to one publication over another? Do you have any type of submission tracking process?

 

When the poems begin to pile up, I’ll go through them to decide which ones are ready to make their way into the world; make some final adjustments after months and sometimes years of rewrites; and then decide which journal may welcome them. I make it a point never to send to a magazine I haven’t read. For instance, there is no point sending any of my work to a magazine that only publishes haiku since I don’t write them. It’s a waste of my time and the editor’s as well.

 

In the beginning of my writing career, I sent to journals with wide circulations and were well known, at least to poets. Then after reading them I realized the poetry they published was rather bland even if written by a well known poet. One journal that I would like to appear in because if its longevity and since it appears on most newsstands, I decided early on I would only submit to when they started publishing poems that were engaging, energized and took risks. Needless to say, I still can’t send them my work.

 

I learned that it is the quality of the work a journal publishes and not the quantity of its readership. I publish in some magazines with very small readerships because of the high caliber of the poems they publish. It’s easy to discover journals that publish fine poems by poets who might not have name recognition--the editors are after quality and that alone. Of course, many journals mix it up publishing good poems with not so good poems. To be fair, most editors are subjective in their tastes. What I am trying to say is I look for journals that might go for my kind of stuff, no matter how large or small its readership may be.

 

I can remember when I first started sending work out, I wanted to publish in Poetry. I figured all the great poets of the twentieth century, my heroes, had at one time appeared in its pages. More importantly, John Frederick Nims was the editor at the time, a poet I greatly admired and respected. So when he took five of my poems, published them in two issues and ran my name on the cover, I don’t think my feet touched the ground for months. To this day, I am thrilled those poems appeared there and more importantly were chosen by Nims.

 

My tracking process hasn’t changed. I write down the poems I send out, who I sent them to and the date I sent them. If a poem is taken, I put a check next to the name and if it isn’t, a line goes through it.

 

In an interview you mentioned that poets are lucky to not be football players or ballerinas since they tend to be "washed up" at an early age. Can you elaborate a little on this concept of how poets can mature over time? Do you think poets' skills increase or decrease with age?

 

“Washed up” does sound a bit harsh but what I meant to say was when an athlete or dancer has to consider retirement in their early 30s, a writer is just beginning to come into his own and excel creatively. We are lucky there are no age limits. In fact, the more one lives and experiences the joys and sorrows of everyday life the more there is to write about. The longer a poet lives, reads and writes, as is the case for many older poets, you can see how their style matures and is enriched from book to book. That is how it often works and sometimes it doesn’t for even our most highly esteemed poets. I believe there is a basic reason why some of their skills decrease.

 

A case in point is Robert Lowell, who in the last decade of his life published six very weak collections. This was after publishing three brilliant books early in his career. Then publishers and the rest of the literary world wanted more, as they certainly did from Lowell, so he like some others in his position stepped up the quantity of poems he published as the quality diminished. It’s the law of supply and demand--something suffers and usually it’s quality. It’s not so much a decrease of poetic gifts, it’s more rushing into print that is at fault. After all, America is a fast food society. This could also be said of John Berryman who rushed too many extra dream songs into print. It’s not necessarily a loss of poetic skills, like so many critics claim; it’s fame, what Milton calls, “the last infirmity of noble minds.”

 

There are poets who stuck to their guns and did not step up productivity and publish inferior work, such as Bishop, Stevens and Williams to name a few. Frost was another who didn’t rush anything into print ever; he wanted his poems to be like a “burr under a saddle” and stick around for awhile. Perhaps that is why it took him a decade before a new collection of his poems would appear. He wrote slowly with precision along with all the other gifts the greats possess. He had a long life and no one accused him of any decrease of his poetic gifts.

 

I'm reminded of a poem by James Cummins in which he chants "What do we want? Immortality. When do we want it? Now." Do you feel younger poets should learn patience with their poetic goals and ambition? Or do you think they should always feed off that passion and desire to write great?

 

That is a fun quote. Cummins must attend a lot of sporting events. When talking about “poetic goals and ambition” for the younger poet, hopefully it pertains to language and writing the best possible poems they can. In “Ars Poetica,” Horace says that when a poet finishes a poem don’t publish it for at least 10 years, continue working on it so after a decade it should be ready to go out into the world. Great advice! Who am I to argue with Horace. Pope says in “An Essay on Criticism” 1,700 years later that poets should hold onto their poems for five years. He cut the waiting time in half. The point is as Frost says “to make your poems better.” However, many younger poets rush through their poems then rush them into publication. It stands to reason that first books by poets in their twenties and early thirties who are right out of grad school read like collections of first and second drafts.

 

As I said earlier, if work by a poet of Lowell’s stature suffers because he rushed his last poems into print, how could a young poet who rushes poems into print expect them to last in the classical sense, meaning to stay around for at least one hundred years. Of course, I don’t expect young poets to hold on to their poems and keep revising for five or ten years. I do however urge them to keep revising even if they think a poem is done. Their “poetic goals and ambitions” should be focused on paying homage to language and making their writing better. Many do realize that this is no easy task, nor should it be. I keep reminding them of Williams’ declaration, “Erase while you have the time, one word can change the world.” I take his pronouncement literally.

 

But if you mean “goals and ambitions” that pertain to jobs, awards and grants, that is something else. It’s politics and that has nothing to do with writing. Their ambition should be focused on the integrity of the poems they are writing and take to heart what Keats said about his ambition: “I would sooner fail than not be among the greatest.”  

 

In teaching, are there certain points you try to emphasize to your students? If so, what are they?

 

There are many points I emphasize in class but first and foremost is lucidity. I want them to write clearly--I believe clarity is a virtue. That is not to say that there should not be complexity to their poems; complexity should rise to the surface after each reading. So if they are writing about a car, I want to know that. A reader should be able to get their footing and know where they are before moving around in the poem.

 

The Romantics made sure of that. They wanted their readers to know in no uncertain terms exactly where they were in the beginning of the poem. Closer to home, James Wright is another. He made sure his reader knew exactly where they were. There shouldn’t be any secrecy--how can you get anywhere if you don’t know where you are?

 

Also many younger poets feel obscurity and difficulty imply value. It doesn’t, it implies obscurity. It is much braver to write clearly since you are directly engaging your reader. You are saying, "This is what I think, now you can respond." It’s much easier to write obscure poetry because you